An era ended when the Soviet Union collapsed on Dec. 31, 1991. The confrontation between the United States and the Soviet Union defined the Cold War period. The collapse of Europe framed that confrontation.
An era ended when the Soviet Union collapsed on Dec. 31, 1991. The confrontation between the United States and the Soviet Union defined the Cold War period. The collapse of Europe framed that confrontation.
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After World War II, the Soviet and American armies occupied Europe. Both towered over the remnants of Europe's forces. The collapse of the European imperial system, the emergence of new states and a struggle between the Soviets and Americans for domination and influence also defined the confrontation. There were, of course, many other aspects and phases of the confrontation, but in the end, the Cold War was a struggle built on Europe's decline.
Many shifts in the international system accompanied the end of the Cold War. In fact, 1991 was an extraordinary and defining year. The Japanese economic miracle ended. China after Tiananmen Square inherited Japan's place as a rapidly growing, export-based economy, one defined by the continued pre-eminence of the Chinese Communist Party. The Maastricht Treaty was formulated, creating the structure of the subsequent European Union. A vast coalition dominated by the United States reversed the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait.
Three things defined the post-Cold War world. The first was U.S. power. The second was the rise of China as the center of global industrial growth based on low wages. The third was the re-emergence of Europe as a massive, integrated economic power. Meanwhile, Russia, the main remnant of the Soviet Union, reeled while Japan shifted to a dramatically different economic mode.
The post-Cold War world had two phases. The first lasted from Dec. 31, 1991, until Sept. 11, 2001. The second lasted from 9/11 until now.
The initial phase of the post-Cold War world was built on two assumptions. The first assumption was that the United States was the dominant political and military power but that such power was less significant than before, since economics was the new focus. The second phase still revolved around the three Great Powers — the United States, China and Europe — but involved a major shift in the worldview of the United States, which then assumed that pre-eminence included the power to reshape the Islamic world through military action while China and Europe single-mindedly focused on economic matters.
The three pillars of the international system
In this new era, Europe is reeling economically and is divided politically. The idea of Europe codified in Maastricht no longer defines Europe. Like the Japanese economic miracle before it, the Chinese economic miracle is drawing to a close and Beijing is beginning to examine its military options. The United States is withdrawing from Afghanistan and reconsidering the relationship between global pre-eminence and global omnipotence. Nothing is as it was in 1991.
Europe primarily defined itself as an economic power, with sovereignty largely retained by its members but shaped by the rule of the European Union. Europe tried to have it all: economic integration and individual states. But now this untenable idea has reached its end and Europe is fragmenting. One region, including Germany, Austria, the Netherlands and Luxembourg, has low unemployment. The other region on the periphery has high or extraordinarily high unemployment.
Germany wants to retain the European Union to protect German trade interests and because Berlin properly fears the political consequences of a fragmented Europe. But as the creditor of last resort, Germany also wants to control the economic behavior of the EU nation-states. Berlin does not want to let off the European states by simply bailing them out. If it bails them out, it must control their budgets. But the member states do not want to cede sovereignty to a German-dominated EU apparatus in exchange for a bailout.
In the indebted peripheral region, Cyprus has been treated with particular economic savagery as part of the bailout process. Certainly, the Cypriots acted irresponsibly. But that label applies to all of the EU members, including Germany, who created an economic plant so vast that it could not begin to consume what it produces — making the country utterly dependent on the willingness of others to buy German goods. There are thus many kinds of irresponsibility. How the European Union treats irresponsibility depends upon the power of the nation in question. Cyprus, small and marginal, has been crushed while larger nations receive more favorable treatment despite their own irresponsibility.
It has been said by many Europeans that Cyprus should never have been admitted to the European Union. That might be true, but it was admitted — during the time of European hubris when it was felt that mere EU membership would redeem any nation. Now, Europe can no longer afford pride, and it is every nation for itself. Cyprus set the precedent that the weak will be crushed. It serves as a lesson to other weakening nations, a lesson that over time will transform the European idea of integration and sovereignty. The price of integration for the weak is high, and all of Europe is weak in some way.
In such an environment, sovereignty becomes sanctuary. It is interesting to watch Hungary ignore the European Union as Budapest reconstructs its political system to be more sovereign — and more authoritarian — in the wider storm raging around it. Authoritarian nationalism is an old European cure-all, one that is re-emerging, since no one wants to be the next Cyprus.
I have already said much about China, having argued for several years that China's economy couldn't possibly continue to expand at the same rate. Leaving aside all the specific arguments, extraordinarily rapid growth in an export-oriented economy requires economic health among its customers. It is nice to imagine expanded domestic demand, but in a country as impoverished as China, increasing demand requires revolutionizing life in the interior. China has tried this many times. It has never worked, and in any case China certainly couldn't make it work in the time needed. Instead, Beijing is maintaining growth by slashing profit margins on exports. What growth exists is neither what it used to be nor anywhere near as profitable. That sort of growth in Japan undermined financial viability as money was lent to companies to continue exporting and employing people — money that would never be repaid.
It is interesting to recall the extravagant claims about the future of Japan in the 1980s. Awestruck by growth rates, Westerners did not see the hollowing out of the financial system as growth rates were sustained by cutting prices and profits. Japan's miracle seemed to be eternal. It wasn't, and neither is China's. And China has a problem that Japan didn't: a billion impoverished people. Japan exists, but behaves differently than it did before; the same is happening to China.
Both Europe and China thought about the world in the post-Cold War period similarly. Each believed that geopolitical questions and even questions of domestic politics could be suppressed and sometimes even ignored. They believed this because they both thought they had entered a period of permanent prosperity. 1991-2008 was in fact a period of extraordinary prosperity, one that both Europe and China simply assumed would never end and one whose prosperity would moot geopolitics and politics.
Periods of prosperity, of course, always alternate with periods of austerity, and now history has caught up with Europe and China. Europe, which had wanted union and sovereignty, is confronting the political realities of EU unwillingness to make the fundamental and difficult decisions on what union really meant. For its part, China wanted to have a free market and a communist regime in a region it would dominate economically. Its economic climax has left it with the question of whether the regime can survive in an uncontrolled economy, and what its regional power would look like if it weren't prosperous.
And the United States has emerged from the post-Cold War period with one towering lesson: However attractive military intervention is, it always looks easier at the beginning than at the end. The greatest military power in the world has the ability to defeat armies. But it is far more difficult to reshape societies in America's image. A Great Power manages the routine matters of the world not through military intervention, but through manipulating the balance of power. The issue is not that America is in decline. Rather, it is that even with the power the United States had in 2001, it could not impose its political will — even though it had the power to disrupt and destroy regimes — unless it was prepared to commit all of its power and treasure to transforming a country like Afghanistan. And that is a high price to pay for Afghan democracy.
The United States has emerged into the new period with what is still the largest economy in the world with the fewest economic problems of the three pillars of the post-Cold War world. It has also emerged with the greatest military power. But it has emerged far more mature and cautious than it entered the period. There are new phases in history, but not new world orders. Economies rise and fall, there are limits to the greatest military power and a Great Power needs prudence in both lending and invading.
A new era begins
Eras unfold in strange ways until you suddenly realize they are over. For example, the Cold War era meandered for decades, during which U.S.-Soviet detentes or the end of the Vietnam War could have seemed to signal the end of the era itself. Now, we are at a point where the post-Cold War model no longer explains the behavior of the world. We are thus entering a new era. I don't have a good buzzword for the phase we're entering, since most periods are given a label in hindsight. (The interwar period, for example, got a name only after there was another war to bracket it.) But already there are several defining characteristics to this era we can identify.
First, the United States remains the world's dominant power in all dimensions. It will act with caution, however, recognizing the crucial difference between pre-eminence and omnipotence.
Second, Europe is returning to its normal condition of multiple competing nation-states. While Germany will dream of a Europe in which it can write the budgets of lesser states, the EU nation-states will look at Cyprus and choose default before losing sovereignty.
Third, Russia is re-emerging. As the European Peninsula fragments, the Russians will do what they always do: fish in muddy waters. Russia is giving preferential terms for natural gas imports to some countries, buying metallurgical facilities in Hungary and Poland, and buying rail terminals in Slovakia. Russia has always been economically dysfunctional yet wielded outsized influence — recall the Cold War. The deals they are making, of which this is a small sample, are not in their economic interests, but they increase Moscow's political influence substantially.
Fourth, China is becoming self-absorbed in trying to manage its new economic realities. Aligning the Communist Party with lower growth rates is not easy. The Party's reason for being is prosperity. Without prosperity, it has little to offer beyond a much more authoritarian state.
And fifth, a host of new countries will emerge to supplement China as the world's low-wage, high-growth epicenter. Latin America, Africa and less-developed parts of Southeast Asia are all emerging as contenders.
Relativity in the balance of power
There is a paradox in all of this. While the United States has committed many errors, the fragmentation of Europe and the weakening of China mean the United States emerges more powerful, since power is relative. It was said that the post-Cold War world was America's time of dominance. I would argue that it was the preface of U.S. dominance. Its two great counterbalances are losing their ability to counter U.S. power because they mistakenly believed that real power was economic power. The United States had combined power — economic, political and military — and that allowed it to maintain its overall power when economic power faltered.
A fragmented Europe has no chance at balancing the United States. And while China is reaching for military power, it will take many years to produce the kind of power that is global, and it can do so only if its economy allows it to. The United States defeated the Soviet Union in the Cold War because of its balanced power. Europe and China defeated themselves because they placed all their chips on economics. And now we enter the new era.
“You guys have no idea how much fun it is to wind you guys up and watch you spin around. It is truly funny.
Hope all works out for each of you. You are all obviously intelligent and enthusiastic about each of your beliefs. I hope you and your families are doing well. Me and mine are doing well.
By the way, I live in the Balkans and have for about 14 years. I truly enjoy the being with the people of the Balkans. Hopefully there will be a bright and wonderful future for all here. Everyone certainly deserves it.
(Another America, 8 April 2013 11:10)”
The only thing on this thread that is doing any spinning (out of control, that is) is your mind – seems to be spinning inside a maze of its own making that it can’t get out from. As I recommended to you already, you should consult a shrink. And bring that kid (real or imagined) along with you too. And pity those in the Balkans who have to put up with you.
(lowe, 8 April 2013 12:22)
You guys have no idea how much fun it is to wind you guys up and watch you spin around. It is truly funny.
Hope all works out for each of you. You are all obviously intelligent and enthusiastic about each of your beliefs. I hope you and your families are doing well. Me and mine are doing well.
By the way, I live in the Balkans and have for about 14 years. I truly enjoy the being with the people of the Balkans. Hopefully there will be a bright and wonderful future for all here. Everyone certainly deserves it.
(Another America, 8 April 2013 11:10)
More drivel from my favourite propagandist who passes himself of as serious analyst.
He is a list of the US climb back to the top:
Kosovo – Failure
Iraq – Failure
Afghanistan – Failure
Libya – Failure
Syria – Failure
North Korea – Watch the US back down; why they even stopped testing missiles in the US to try and reduce tensions.
Yes, the United States of Piss and Wind has to lodge another loan application with Bejing before starting another war. And yes the US will be back on top in ten years (heard that one before?) LOL, LOL.
For the completely deluded, the US is now so far in debt that it will take 5 to 6 generations to bring it under control. Its not just the Federal Government that is in serious trouble, but the States with only four weeks ago Detroit announced it was broke – this is only the tip of a huge iceberg.
(sj, 8 April 2013 00:34)
"The kids are bouncing around so I misread your comment. I generally pay for my own dinners with cash. But credit cards are nice to have from time to time. Maybe when you grow up you will have a good enough credit reference to have one. By the way, this is fun. You're disparaging a country you have never been to or met anyone from. Are you still on spring break or are you back in class next week like my 9 year old?
(Another American, 7 April 2013 16:15)"
What a feeble excuse to blame children for your own incompetence in reading! That you find it "fun" to read disparaging remarks about your country only goes to raise questions about your mental state. I would suggest you see a shrink, and yes, have your credit card ready.
And why should I be interested in what your 9 year old does in school? Being presumptuous again here, are you? Actually I really couldn't care less what your kid does, as long as he/she doesn't come here to make a nuisance of himself/herself. If he/she is as presumptuous and mentally questionable as his/her parent, all the more he/she should stay away!
(lowe, 7 April 2013 22:49)
"You didn't answer the question. You don't want to tell what country you live in? Why wouldn't you want to tell anyone that?
(Another American, 6 April 2013 19:27)"
I was born in america and have lived here all of my life. You are the one who needs to leave your basement and get a job. america used to be a great, truly inspirational nation. Today, it is the biggest, deadbeat tool in the world with a sovereign debt of 16 trillion dollars and a thoroughly corrupted political system. The only reason why I stay in america is because I have already invested 30 years in its stupid retirement system and I want the largest fraction of my money back. The only reason why I don't pack and move to Canada is because I can't tolerate the cold climate. What can you say about a military power like the us when 1/4 of its citizens is obese and 1/6 of its citizens is hungry? None of this had to happen - the sole cause was stupid, greedy, arrogant americans. This is why the world should have no pity when america collapses like all empires before.
(JohnBoy, 7 April 2013 21:36)
"What's the obsession about credit cards? Do you not know how they work? I in fact have several and they all have ZERO balance. I pay them off each month. Your Mom can explain about interest to you if you need. Also, I drive myself. Why would I need a driver? I know your Mom drives you to soccer practice, but I am an adult with my own car.
(Another American, 7 April 2013 15:53) "
well, then you ain't the typical Yankee who bite off more than they could chew in credit card debt. [link] In fact, it would appear that it is YOUR people who don't know how a credit card works -- many of them spend, spend, spend on their plastics and didn't know (or don't wanna know) that debts have to be repaid. And with interests too -- a typical Yankee trait that goes all the way up to your leaders if your national debt is anything to go by and which I repost the link with relish! -- [link]/
You claimed to know so much about my mom even though you've never met her -- I rest my case about the presumptuous Yankee who thinks he/she know it all. You have just unwittingly proven my point for me -- I suppose I should thank you for that!
As for your claim to be an adult -- well, chronologically you may be one, but I have my doubts as to your mental age!
(lowe, 7 April 2013 16:59)
Personally, I'd rather have my American passport than any other I can think of. (Another American, 05. april 2013 19:41) And how many countries can you travel to and walk around freely without having to hide your identity and nationality due to safety reasons? Because your country is loved so much all around the world?
Quite a few. Most of Europe and Asia. I have been to most of the Balkans on business or pleasure. And yes, even Serbia. Most adult people can separate their dislike of a particular government from their treatment of average people they meet on the streets. You and I would probably have a good time over a cup of coffee, even if we disagree on a lot of things.
(Another American, 7 April 2013 16:33)
The kids are bouncing around so I misread your comment. I generally pay for my own dinners with cash. But credit cards are nice to have from time to time. Maybe when you grow up you will have a good enough credit reference to have one. By the way, this is fun. You're disparaging a country you have never been to or met anyone from. Are you still on spring break or are you back in class next week like my 9 year old?
(Another American, 7 April 2013 16:15)
Personally, I'd rather have my American passport than any other I can think of. (Another American, 05. april 2013 19:41) And how many countries can you travel to and walk around freely without having to hide your identity and nationality due to safety reasons? Because your country is loved so much all around the world?
(Teslavio, 7 April 2013 16:10)
And I don't certainly need presumptuous Yankees to give me unsought advice about having dinner. BTW we pay for our dinners here in cash -- do you have to use whatever credit cards that are not yet maxed out for your dinners over there?
(lowe, 7 April 2013 13:38)
What's the obsession about credit cards? Do you not know how they work? I in fact have several and they all have ZERO balance. I pay them off each month. Your Mom can explain about interest to you if you need. Also, I drive myself. Why would I need a driver? I know your Mom drives you to soccer practice, but I am an adult with my own car.
(Another American, 7 April 2013 15:53)
"The fact you disparage my country but won't identify yours says a whole lot about you. You might want to log off and go have dinner. Your Mom is likely getting upset with you spending so much time in the basement.
(Another American, 7 April 2013 13:06)"
So what does it say "a whole lot" about me? That I have nothing but contempt for Yankee Land? Yep, that's it!
And I don't certainly need presumptuous Yankees to give me unsought advice about having dinner. BTW we pay for our dinners here in cash -- do you have to use whatever credit cards that are not yet maxed out for your dinners over there?
(lowe, 7 April 2013 13:38)
Of course I don't have to tell you Yankees anything unless I choose to. And if the suspense is killing you, well, tough luck!
(lowe, 7 April 2013 06:44)
The fact you disparage my country but won't identify yours says a whole lot about you. You might want to log off and go have dinner. Your Mom is likely getting upset with you spending so much time in the basement.
(Another American, 7 April 2013 13:06)
"You didn't answer the question. You don't want to tell what country you live in? Why wouldn't you want to tell anyone that?
(Another American, 6 April 2013 19:27)"
Of course I don't have to tell you Yankees anything unless I choose to. And if the suspense is killing you, well, tough luck!
(lowe, 7 April 2013 06:44)
I see .... and several times too, you say? ....... so did you maxed out your credit cards and then defaulted on the payments to feed your wanderlusts? If so, then no wonder you Yankees have the highest debt in the entire globe! [link]/
(lowe, 6 April 2013 14:01)
You didn't answer the question. You don't want to tell what country you live in? Why wouldn't you want to tell anyone that?
(Another American, 6 April 2013 19:27)
"USA is a word power - is Serbia???? No. Complain and figure out the demise of the USA all you want. Who would max out a credit card in Serbia? Everything is so cheap.
(jd, 6 April 2013 15:18)"
Sure, I agree with you about Yankee Land being a WORD power -- it just knows how to talk and talk and talk -- would have been better if it had often practiced what it liked to preach to others.
I am not familiar with the credit card situation in Serbia. But what have you got against things being "so cheap" there, if that's true? If the fair value of a loaf of bread in Yankee Land or Serbia or any other country is, say, 3 dollars, don't you think it is just plain nutty to pay much more for it? Especially when you need to max out on a credit card and then couldn't pay your bills? Don't be dense!
(lowe, 6 April 2013 17:48)
USA is a word power - is Serbia???? No. Complain and figure out the demise of the USA all you want. Who would max out a credit card in Serbia? Everything is so cheap.
(jd, 6 April 2013 15:18)
"I have probably already been to your country several times. Most likely I even enjoyed it. Which one is it?
(Another American, 6 April 2013 13:09) "
I see .... and several times too, you say? ....... so did you maxed out your credit cards and then defaulted on the payments to feed your wanderlusts? If so, then no wonder you Yankees have the highest debt in the entire globe! [link]/
(lowe, 6 April 2013 14:01)
well, good for you. Just done use it to come to my country. And I dare say that many around the globe feel the same way as me too.
(lowe, 6 April 2013 01:27)
I have probably already been to your country several times. Most likely I even enjoyed it. Which one is it?
(Another American, 6 April 2013 13:09)
"Personally, I'd rather have my American passport than any other I can think of.
(Another American, 5 April 2013 19:41)"
well, good for you. Just done use it to come to my country. And I dare say that many around the globe feel the same way as me too.
(lowe, 6 April 2013 01:27)
"The United States had combined power — economic, political and military — and that allowed it to maintain its overall power when economic power faltered. "
Yankee economic power merely "faltered"? [link]/ ha, ha, ha!
(lowe, 6 April 2013 01:24)
These guys are laughable. They need a reality check. USA entering the era of world dominance? Yes, we saw the evidence of that in Afghanistan and Georgia, and we see it now in Syria. USA would not dare to dominate a small country now let alone a bigger fish. Everybody know they are slowly retreating. They would rather run home but they don't want a bad publicity for their domestic audience.
(Teslavio, 5 April 2013 07:47) These guys are laughable. They need a reality check. USA entering the era of world dominance? Yes, we saw the evidence of that in Afghanistan and Georgia, and we see it now in Syria. USA would not dare to dominate a small country now let alone a bigger fish. Everybody know they are slowly retreating. They would rather run home but they don't want a bad publicity for their domestic audience.
(Teslavio, 5 April 2013 07:47)
Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy. Personally, I'd rather have my American passport than any other I can think of.
(Another American, 5 April 2013 19:41)
These guys are laughable. They need a reality check. USA entering the era of world dominance? Yes, we saw the evidence of that in Afghanistan and Georgia, and we see it now in Syria. USA would not dare to dominate a small country now let alone a bigger fish. Everybody know they are slowly retreating. They would rather run home but they don't want a bad publicity for their domestic audience.
(Teslavio, 5 April 2013 07:47)
These guys are laughable. They need a reality check. USA entering the era of world dominance? Yes, we saw the evidence of that in Afghanistan and Georgia, and we see it now in Syria. USA would not dare to dominate a small country now let alone a bigger fish. Everybody know they are slowly retreating. They would rather run home but they don't want a bad publicity for their domestic audience.
(Teslavio, 5 April 2013 07:47)
"Personally, I'd rather have my American passport than any other I can think of.
(Another American, 5 April 2013 19:41)"
well, good for you. Just done use it to come to my country. And I dare say that many around the globe feel the same way as me too.
(lowe, 6 April 2013 01:27)
"The United States had combined power — economic, political and military — and that allowed it to maintain its overall power when economic power faltered. "
Yankee economic power merely "faltered"? [link]/ ha, ha, ha!
(lowe, 6 April 2013 01:24)
More drivel from my favourite propagandist who passes himself of as serious analyst.
He is a list of the US climb back to the top:
Kosovo – Failure
Iraq – Failure
Afghanistan – Failure
Libya – Failure
Syria – Failure
North Korea – Watch the US back down; why they even stopped testing missiles in the US to try and reduce tensions.
Yes, the United States of Piss and Wind has to lodge another loan application with Bejing before starting another war. And yes the US will be back on top in ten years (heard that one before?) LOL, LOL.
For the completely deluded, the US is now so far in debt that it will take 5 to 6 generations to bring it under control. Its not just the Federal Government that is in serious trouble, but the States with only four weeks ago Detroit announced it was broke – this is only the tip of a huge iceberg.
(sj, 8 April 2013 00:34)
“You guys have no idea how much fun it is to wind you guys up and watch you spin around. It is truly funny.
Hope all works out for each of you. You are all obviously intelligent and enthusiastic about each of your beliefs. I hope you and your families are doing well. Me and mine are doing well.
By the way, I live in the Balkans and have for about 14 years. I truly enjoy the being with the people of the Balkans. Hopefully there will be a bright and wonderful future for all here. Everyone certainly deserves it.
(Another America, 8 April 2013 11:10)”
The only thing on this thread that is doing any spinning (out of control, that is) is your mind – seems to be spinning inside a maze of its own making that it can’t get out from. As I recommended to you already, you should consult a shrink. And bring that kid (real or imagined) along with you too. And pity those in the Balkans who have to put up with you.
(lowe, 8 April 2013 12:22)
Personally, I'd rather have my American passport than any other I can think of. (Another American, 05. april 2013 19:41) And how many countries can you travel to and walk around freely without having to hide your identity and nationality due to safety reasons? Because your country is loved so much all around the world?
(Teslavio, 7 April 2013 16:10)
"The fact you disparage my country but won't identify yours says a whole lot about you. You might want to log off and go have dinner. Your Mom is likely getting upset with you spending so much time in the basement.
(Another American, 7 April 2013 13:06)"
So what does it say "a whole lot" about me? That I have nothing but contempt for Yankee Land? Yep, that's it!
And I don't certainly need presumptuous Yankees to give me unsought advice about having dinner. BTW we pay for our dinners here in cash -- do you have to use whatever credit cards that are not yet maxed out for your dinners over there?
(lowe, 7 April 2013 13:38)
"What's the obsession about credit cards? Do you not know how they work? I in fact have several and they all have ZERO balance. I pay them off each month. Your Mom can explain about interest to you if you need. Also, I drive myself. Why would I need a driver? I know your Mom drives you to soccer practice, but I am an adult with my own car.
(Another American, 7 April 2013 15:53) "
well, then you ain't the typical Yankee who bite off more than they could chew in credit card debt. [link] In fact, it would appear that it is YOUR people who don't know how a credit card works -- many of them spend, spend, spend on their plastics and didn't know (or don't wanna know) that debts have to be repaid. And with interests too -- a typical Yankee trait that goes all the way up to your leaders if your national debt is anything to go by and which I repost the link with relish! -- [link]/
You claimed to know so much about my mom even though you've never met her -- I rest my case about the presumptuous Yankee who thinks he/she know it all. You have just unwittingly proven my point for me -- I suppose I should thank you for that!
As for your claim to be an adult -- well, chronologically you may be one, but I have my doubts as to your mental age!
(lowe, 7 April 2013 16:59)
"You didn't answer the question. You don't want to tell what country you live in? Why wouldn't you want to tell anyone that?
(Another American, 6 April 2013 19:27)"
I was born in america and have lived here all of my life. You are the one who needs to leave your basement and get a job. america used to be a great, truly inspirational nation. Today, it is the biggest, deadbeat tool in the world with a sovereign debt of 16 trillion dollars and a thoroughly corrupted political system. The only reason why I stay in america is because I have already invested 30 years in its stupid retirement system and I want the largest fraction of my money back. The only reason why I don't pack and move to Canada is because I can't tolerate the cold climate. What can you say about a military power like the us when 1/4 of its citizens is obese and 1/6 of its citizens is hungry? None of this had to happen - the sole cause was stupid, greedy, arrogant americans. This is why the world should have no pity when america collapses like all empires before.
(JohnBoy, 7 April 2013 21:36)
"You didn't answer the question. You don't want to tell what country you live in? Why wouldn't you want to tell anyone that?
(Another American, 6 April 2013 19:27)"
Of course I don't have to tell you Yankees anything unless I choose to. And if the suspense is killing you, well, tough luck!
(lowe, 7 April 2013 06:44)
"I have probably already been to your country several times. Most likely I even enjoyed it. Which one is it?
(Another American, 6 April 2013 13:09) "
I see .... and several times too, you say? ....... so did you maxed out your credit cards and then defaulted on the payments to feed your wanderlusts? If so, then no wonder you Yankees have the highest debt in the entire globe! [link]/
(lowe, 6 April 2013 14:01)
"USA is a word power - is Serbia???? No. Complain and figure out the demise of the USA all you want. Who would max out a credit card in Serbia? Everything is so cheap.
(jd, 6 April 2013 15:18)"
Sure, I agree with you about Yankee Land being a WORD power -- it just knows how to talk and talk and talk -- would have been better if it had often practiced what it liked to preach to others.
I am not familiar with the credit card situation in Serbia. But what have you got against things being "so cheap" there, if that's true? If the fair value of a loaf of bread in Yankee Land or Serbia or any other country is, say, 3 dollars, don't you think it is just plain nutty to pay much more for it? Especially when you need to max out on a credit card and then couldn't pay your bills? Don't be dense!
(lowe, 6 April 2013 17:48)
well, good for you. Just done use it to come to my country. And I dare say that many around the globe feel the same way as me too.
(lowe, 6 April 2013 01:27)
I have probably already been to your country several times. Most likely I even enjoyed it. Which one is it?
(Another American, 6 April 2013 13:09)
"The kids are bouncing around so I misread your comment. I generally pay for my own dinners with cash. But credit cards are nice to have from time to time. Maybe when you grow up you will have a good enough credit reference to have one. By the way, this is fun. You're disparaging a country you have never been to or met anyone from. Are you still on spring break or are you back in class next week like my 9 year old?
(Another American, 7 April 2013 16:15)"
What a feeble excuse to blame children for your own incompetence in reading! That you find it "fun" to read disparaging remarks about your country only goes to raise questions about your mental state. I would suggest you see a shrink, and yes, have your credit card ready.
And why should I be interested in what your 9 year old does in school? Being presumptuous again here, are you? Actually I really couldn't care less what your kid does, as long as he/she doesn't come here to make a nuisance of himself/herself. If he/she is as presumptuous and mentally questionable as his/her parent, all the more he/she should stay away!
(lowe, 7 April 2013 22:49)
These guys are laughable. They need a reality check. USA entering the era of world dominance? Yes, we saw the evidence of that in Afghanistan and Georgia, and we see it now in Syria. USA would not dare to dominate a small country now let alone a bigger fish. Everybody know they are slowly retreating. They would rather run home but they don't want a bad publicity for their domestic audience.
(Teslavio, 5 April 2013 07:47) These guys are laughable. They need a reality check. USA entering the era of world dominance? Yes, we saw the evidence of that in Afghanistan and Georgia, and we see it now in Syria. USA would not dare to dominate a small country now let alone a bigger fish. Everybody know they are slowly retreating. They would rather run home but they don't want a bad publicity for their domestic audience.
(Teslavio, 5 April 2013 07:47)
Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy. Personally, I'd rather have my American passport than any other I can think of.
(Another American, 5 April 2013 19:41)
And I don't certainly need presumptuous Yankees to give me unsought advice about having dinner. BTW we pay for our dinners here in cash -- do you have to use whatever credit cards that are not yet maxed out for your dinners over there?
(lowe, 7 April 2013 13:38)
What's the obsession about credit cards? Do you not know how they work? I in fact have several and they all have ZERO balance. I pay them off each month. Your Mom can explain about interest to you if you need. Also, I drive myself. Why would I need a driver? I know your Mom drives you to soccer practice, but I am an adult with my own car.
(Another American, 7 April 2013 15:53)
The kids are bouncing around so I misread your comment. I generally pay for my own dinners with cash. But credit cards are nice to have from time to time. Maybe when you grow up you will have a good enough credit reference to have one. By the way, this is fun. You're disparaging a country you have never been to or met anyone from. Are you still on spring break or are you back in class next week like my 9 year old?
(Another American, 7 April 2013 16:15)
I see .... and several times too, you say? ....... so did you maxed out your credit cards and then defaulted on the payments to feed your wanderlusts? If so, then no wonder you Yankees have the highest debt in the entire globe! [link]/
(lowe, 6 April 2013 14:01)
You didn't answer the question. You don't want to tell what country you live in? Why wouldn't you want to tell anyone that?
(Another American, 6 April 2013 19:27)
Of course I don't have to tell you Yankees anything unless I choose to. And if the suspense is killing you, well, tough luck!
(lowe, 7 April 2013 06:44)
The fact you disparage my country but won't identify yours says a whole lot about you. You might want to log off and go have dinner. Your Mom is likely getting upset with you spending so much time in the basement.
(Another American, 7 April 2013 13:06)
You guys have no idea how much fun it is to wind you guys up and watch you spin around. It is truly funny.
Hope all works out for each of you. You are all obviously intelligent and enthusiastic about each of your beliefs. I hope you and your families are doing well. Me and mine are doing well.
By the way, I live in the Balkans and have for about 14 years. I truly enjoy the being with the people of the Balkans. Hopefully there will be a bright and wonderful future for all here. Everyone certainly deserves it.
(Another America, 8 April 2013 11:10)
Personally, I'd rather have my American passport than any other I can think of. (Another American, 05. april 2013 19:41) And how many countries can you travel to and walk around freely without having to hide your identity and nationality due to safety reasons? Because your country is loved so much all around the world?
Quite a few. Most of Europe and Asia. I have been to most of the Balkans on business or pleasure. And yes, even Serbia. Most adult people can separate their dislike of a particular government from their treatment of average people they meet on the streets. You and I would probably have a good time over a cup of coffee, even if we disagree on a lot of things.
(Another American, 7 April 2013 16:33)
USA is a word power - is Serbia???? No. Complain and figure out the demise of the USA all you want. Who would max out a credit card in Serbia? Everything is so cheap.
(jd, 6 April 2013 15:18)
These guys are laughable. They need a reality check. USA entering the era of world dominance? Yes, we saw the evidence of that in Afghanistan and Georgia, and we see it now in Syria. USA would not dare to dominate a small country now let alone a bigger fish. Everybody know they are slowly retreating. They would rather run home but they don't want a bad publicity for their domestic audience.
(Teslavio, 5 April 2013 07:47) These guys are laughable. They need a reality check. USA entering the era of world dominance? Yes, we saw the evidence of that in Afghanistan and Georgia, and we see it now in Syria. USA would not dare to dominate a small country now let alone a bigger fish. Everybody know they are slowly retreating. They would rather run home but they don't want a bad publicity for their domestic audience.
(Teslavio, 5 April 2013 07:47)
Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy. Personally, I'd rather have my American passport than any other I can think of.
(Another American, 5 April 2013 19:41)
The kids are bouncing around so I misread your comment. I generally pay for my own dinners with cash. But credit cards are nice to have from time to time. Maybe when you grow up you will have a good enough credit reference to have one. By the way, this is fun. You're disparaging a country you have never been to or met anyone from. Are you still on spring break or are you back in class next week like my 9 year old?
(Another American, 7 April 2013 16:15)
These guys are laughable. They need a reality check. USA entering the era of world dominance? Yes, we saw the evidence of that in Afghanistan and Georgia, and we see it now in Syria. USA would not dare to dominate a small country now let alone a bigger fish. Everybody know they are slowly retreating. They would rather run home but they don't want a bad publicity for their domestic audience.
(Teslavio, 5 April 2013 07:47)
Of course I don't have to tell you Yankees anything unless I choose to. And if the suspense is killing you, well, tough luck!
(lowe, 7 April 2013 06:44)
The fact you disparage my country but won't identify yours says a whole lot about you. You might want to log off and go have dinner. Your Mom is likely getting upset with you spending so much time in the basement.
(Another American, 7 April 2013 13:06)
USA is a word power - is Serbia???? No. Complain and figure out the demise of the USA all you want. Who would max out a credit card in Serbia? Everything is so cheap.
(jd, 6 April 2013 15:18)
And I don't certainly need presumptuous Yankees to give me unsought advice about having dinner. BTW we pay for our dinners here in cash -- do you have to use whatever credit cards that are not yet maxed out for your dinners over there?
(lowe, 7 April 2013 13:38)
What's the obsession about credit cards? Do you not know how they work? I in fact have several and they all have ZERO balance. I pay them off each month. Your Mom can explain about interest to you if you need. Also, I drive myself. Why would I need a driver? I know your Mom drives you to soccer practice, but I am an adult with my own car.
(Another American, 7 April 2013 15:53)
well, good for you. Just done use it to come to my country. And I dare say that many around the globe feel the same way as me too.
(lowe, 6 April 2013 01:27)
I have probably already been to your country several times. Most likely I even enjoyed it. Which one is it?
(Another American, 6 April 2013 13:09)
"I have probably already been to your country several times. Most likely I even enjoyed it. Which one is it?
(Another American, 6 April 2013 13:09) "
I see .... and several times too, you say? ....... so did you maxed out your credit cards and then defaulted on the payments to feed your wanderlusts? If so, then no wonder you Yankees have the highest debt in the entire globe! [link]/
(lowe, 6 April 2013 14:01)
I see .... and several times too, you say? ....... so did you maxed out your credit cards and then defaulted on the payments to feed your wanderlusts? If so, then no wonder you Yankees have the highest debt in the entire globe! [link]/
(lowe, 6 April 2013 14:01)
You didn't answer the question. You don't want to tell what country you live in? Why wouldn't you want to tell anyone that?
(Another American, 6 April 2013 19:27)
Personally, I'd rather have my American passport than any other I can think of. (Another American, 05. april 2013 19:41) And how many countries can you travel to and walk around freely without having to hide your identity and nationality due to safety reasons? Because your country is loved so much all around the world?
Quite a few. Most of Europe and Asia. I have been to most of the Balkans on business or pleasure. And yes, even Serbia. Most adult people can separate their dislike of a particular government from their treatment of average people they meet on the streets. You and I would probably have a good time over a cup of coffee, even if we disagree on a lot of things.
(Another American, 7 April 2013 16:33)
You guys have no idea how much fun it is to wind you guys up and watch you spin around. It is truly funny.
Hope all works out for each of you. You are all obviously intelligent and enthusiastic about each of your beliefs. I hope you and your families are doing well. Me and mine are doing well.
By the way, I live in the Balkans and have for about 14 years. I truly enjoy the being with the people of the Balkans. Hopefully there will be a bright and wonderful future for all here. Everyone certainly deserves it.
(Another America, 8 April 2013 11:10)
Personally, I'd rather have my American passport than any other I can think of. (Another American, 05. april 2013 19:41) And how many countries can you travel to and walk around freely without having to hide your identity and nationality due to safety reasons? Because your country is loved so much all around the world?
(Teslavio, 7 April 2013 16:10)
"You didn't answer the question. You don't want to tell what country you live in? Why wouldn't you want to tell anyone that?
(Another American, 6 April 2013 19:27)"
Of course I don't have to tell you Yankees anything unless I choose to. And if the suspense is killing you, well, tough luck!
(lowe, 7 April 2013 06:44)
"USA is a word power - is Serbia???? No. Complain and figure out the demise of the USA all you want. Who would max out a credit card in Serbia? Everything is so cheap.
(jd, 6 April 2013 15:18)"
Sure, I agree with you about Yankee Land being a WORD power -- it just knows how to talk and talk and talk -- would have been better if it had often practiced what it liked to preach to others.
I am not familiar with the credit card situation in Serbia. But what have you got against things being "so cheap" there, if that's true? If the fair value of a loaf of bread in Yankee Land or Serbia or any other country is, say, 3 dollars, don't you think it is just plain nutty to pay much more for it? Especially when you need to max out on a credit card and then couldn't pay your bills? Don't be dense!
(lowe, 6 April 2013 17:48)
"The fact you disparage my country but won't identify yours says a whole lot about you. You might want to log off and go have dinner. Your Mom is likely getting upset with you spending so much time in the basement.
(Another American, 7 April 2013 13:06)"
So what does it say "a whole lot" about me? That I have nothing but contempt for Yankee Land? Yep, that's it!
And I don't certainly need presumptuous Yankees to give me unsought advice about having dinner. BTW we pay for our dinners here in cash -- do you have to use whatever credit cards that are not yet maxed out for your dinners over there?
(lowe, 7 April 2013 13:38)
"The United States had combined power — economic, political and military — and that allowed it to maintain its overall power when economic power faltered. "
Yankee economic power merely "faltered"? [link]/ ha, ha, ha!
(lowe, 6 April 2013 01:24)
"Personally, I'd rather have my American passport than any other I can think of.
(Another American, 5 April 2013 19:41)"
well, good for you. Just done use it to come to my country. And I dare say that many around the globe feel the same way as me too.
(lowe, 6 April 2013 01:27)
More drivel from my favourite propagandist who passes himself of as serious analyst.
He is a list of the US climb back to the top:
Kosovo – Failure
Iraq – Failure
Afghanistan – Failure
Libya – Failure
Syria – Failure
North Korea – Watch the US back down; why they even stopped testing missiles in the US to try and reduce tensions.
Yes, the United States of Piss and Wind has to lodge another loan application with Bejing before starting another war. And yes the US will be back on top in ten years (heard that one before?) LOL, LOL.
For the completely deluded, the US is now so far in debt that it will take 5 to 6 generations to bring it under control. Its not just the Federal Government that is in serious trouble, but the States with only four weeks ago Detroit announced it was broke – this is only the tip of a huge iceberg.
(sj, 8 April 2013 00:34)
“You guys have no idea how much fun it is to wind you guys up and watch you spin around. It is truly funny.
Hope all works out for each of you. You are all obviously intelligent and enthusiastic about each of your beliefs. I hope you and your families are doing well. Me and mine are doing well.
By the way, I live in the Balkans and have for about 14 years. I truly enjoy the being with the people of the Balkans. Hopefully there will be a bright and wonderful future for all here. Everyone certainly deserves it.
(Another America, 8 April 2013 11:10)”
The only thing on this thread that is doing any spinning (out of control, that is) is your mind – seems to be spinning inside a maze of its own making that it can’t get out from. As I recommended to you already, you should consult a shrink. And bring that kid (real or imagined) along with you too. And pity those in the Balkans who have to put up with you.
(lowe, 8 April 2013 12:22)
"You didn't answer the question. You don't want to tell what country you live in? Why wouldn't you want to tell anyone that?
(Another American, 6 April 2013 19:27)"
I was born in america and have lived here all of my life. You are the one who needs to leave your basement and get a job. america used to be a great, truly inspirational nation. Today, it is the biggest, deadbeat tool in the world with a sovereign debt of 16 trillion dollars and a thoroughly corrupted political system. The only reason why I stay in america is because I have already invested 30 years in its stupid retirement system and I want the largest fraction of my money back. The only reason why I don't pack and move to Canada is because I can't tolerate the cold climate. What can you say about a military power like the us when 1/4 of its citizens is obese and 1/6 of its citizens is hungry? None of this had to happen - the sole cause was stupid, greedy, arrogant americans. This is why the world should have no pity when america collapses like all empires before.
(JohnBoy, 7 April 2013 21:36)
"What's the obsession about credit cards? Do you not know how they work? I in fact have several and they all have ZERO balance. I pay them off each month. Your Mom can explain about interest to you if you need. Also, I drive myself. Why would I need a driver? I know your Mom drives you to soccer practice, but I am an adult with my own car.
(Another American, 7 April 2013 15:53) "
well, then you ain't the typical Yankee who bite off more than they could chew in credit card debt. [link] In fact, it would appear that it is YOUR people who don't know how a credit card works -- many of them spend, spend, spend on their plastics and didn't know (or don't wanna know) that debts have to be repaid. And with interests too -- a typical Yankee trait that goes all the way up to your leaders if your national debt is anything to go by and which I repost the link with relish! -- [link]/
You claimed to know so much about my mom even though you've never met her -- I rest my case about the presumptuous Yankee who thinks he/she know it all. You have just unwittingly proven my point for me -- I suppose I should thank you for that!
As for your claim to be an adult -- well, chronologically you may be one, but I have my doubts as to your mental age!
(lowe, 7 April 2013 16:59)
"The kids are bouncing around so I misread your comment. I generally pay for my own dinners with cash. But credit cards are nice to have from time to time. Maybe when you grow up you will have a good enough credit reference to have one. By the way, this is fun. You're disparaging a country you have never been to or met anyone from. Are you still on spring break or are you back in class next week like my 9 year old?
(Another American, 7 April 2013 16:15)"
What a feeble excuse to blame children for your own incompetence in reading! That you find it "fun" to read disparaging remarks about your country only goes to raise questions about your mental state. I would suggest you see a shrink, and yes, have your credit card ready.
And why should I be interested in what your 9 year old does in school? Being presumptuous again here, are you? Actually I really couldn't care less what your kid does, as long as he/she doesn't come here to make a nuisance of himself/herself. If he/she is as presumptuous and mentally questionable as his/her parent, all the more he/she should stay away!
(lowe, 7 April 2013 22:49)