Athens supported by France and Israel - tensions are growing every day PHOTO
The Turkish seismic surveying ship "Oruç Reis", located halfway between Crete and Cyprus, is being followed by a Greek flotilla.
Source: RTS, Tanjug
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The eyes of the whole world are focused there because of the new, dangerous tensions between Athens and Ankara, RTS writes, referring to the Greek media.
Athens is demanding the deployment of American forces.
The close meetings of Turkish and Greek frigates, which have aroused passions in the eastern Mediterranean in the last 24 hours, have been replaced by the inflammatory rhetoric of Ankara officials, so Finance Minister Berat Albayrak said it was time for the new generation to pay the price of independence.
"Our leader did not give up. It is our duty. If they attack us, we will fight back. We will fight to the end," Albayrak said, daily Hurriyet reports.
The Turkish minister's statement followed a series of similar words by President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who warned Greece that the fleet accompanying the research ship "Oruç Reis" would retaliate against any provocation by Greek ships.
Although the media in Greece and Turkey report a significantly growing number of fighter jets in the zone where several hundred incidents have been registered over the past year, it seems that the two fleets, after a close encounter between frigates, are still enough far away to avoid any future problems.
According to the Marintrafik website, which monitors maritime traffic, the Turkish flotilla and "Oruç Reis" were about halfway between Crete and Cyprus on Friday afternoon, with occasional confusing maneuvers.
Greece's "Ta nea" states that "Oruç Reis" changed course by 180 degrees, and that the next destination of the Turkish flotilla is not known now.
"Oruç Reis" changed course only 24 hours after the collision of the Greek and Turkish frigates during, apparently, clumsy maneuvering, which later led to serious accusations by the two sides and threats by Recep Tayyip Erdogan that Turkish ships would respond fiercely in the next such incident.
Tensions in the relations between Athens and Ankara provoked reactions, so France immediately sided with Greece and sent a helicopter carrier, a frigate and two "bursts" to the region. Athens was also supported by Israel, while Germany called on the conflicting parties to come to their senses.
Greece, meanwhile, has called on Americans to step up their presence in the Eastern Mediterranean. Greek Minister of Foreign Affairs Nikos Denidas requested a more significant engagement of American forces from US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in Vienna, "Ta nea" reports.
EU in solidarity with Greece
Tonight, the foreign ministers of the European Union member states expressed "full solidarity" with Greece and Cyprus and called on Turkey for "urgent deescalation", after the Turkish ship started exploring for oil and gas in the disputed waters of the eastern Mediterranean.
EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Josep Borrell wrote after the emergency meeting on Twitter that the EU expresses full solidarity with Greece and Cyprus and called on Turkey to urgently deescalate and return to negotiations.
The European Union's foreign policy chief expressed "full solidarity" with Greece and Cyprus and urged a "immediate deescalation" by Turkey after EU foreign ministers held urgent talks Friday on high military tensions over offshore drilling rights in the eastern Mediterranean.
Greek Foreign Minister Nikos Dendias, who met with US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in Vienna earlier today, said he was "satisfied" with the solidarity of EU partners and their condemnation of "Turkey's illegal behavior".
"Turkey is the only (party) responsible for the escalation of tension in the eastern Mediterranean, and it must immediately leave the Greek continental shelf," Dendias said after Friday's talks. "That is a necessary precondition for deescalation."
The Turkish ship "Oruç Reis" began exploration two days ago in the disputed area in the eastern Mediterranean, rich in oil and gas, despite the opposition of Greece, which claims that the area overlaps with its continental shelf.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said earlier that Ankara would continue exploratory drilling until August 23, as planned, but after a telephone conversation with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, he hinted that Ankara and Berlin had agreed to "soften" the position when it comes to date.
However, he said on Friday that Turkey continues to work on oil and gas exploration in the eastern Mediterranean, because Greece has not kept its promises regarding those activities in the region.
Albanian Americsn
What's hiding behind my name?
I quess it's my surname.
Anyone intelligent would know it.
But no if you are albanian american.
(British, 8 September 2020 08:28)
Alexander the Great was Croatian just like Nikola Tesla and Marco Polo. No sorry the were all Kosovo* Albanians. Oh that Blue flag with fake map created recently.
That is a flag from centuries ago.
Who says it is new???
(Smart Serb, 17 August 2020 16:16)
Greece and Turkey held many talks.
Macron did, Merkel too. EU, NATO.
To no avail.
And EU issued several warnings to the Turkey.
How Mr Erdoğan deals with the matter is to send in 2 more ships in the disputed area.
Help!
The only thing I do not understand is ISRAEL poking its nose.
(British, 17 August 2020 16:13)
Greece is ortodox country and is our duty to stand shoulder to shoulder with them.
They have Nato on their side and our help may not be required to give a bloody nose to Turkey.
(British, 16 August 2020 18:19)
You are a British but orthodox, and you call the Albanians “siptari “ ? Hmmmm . What’s hiding behind your name
(Albanian American, 17 August 2020 14:41)
js,
"opanci" have been a part of traditional dressing in the former Yugoslavia. Especially in the remote villages
Since other footwear "opanci" are part of narod a nosnja in rep Serbia.
And I love to see colorful outfits and "opsnci"
We, Serbs are very proud of our traditional nsrodna nosnja.
(British, 17 August 2020 06:47)
They must be talks if not, Turkey will win because the other nations will not be willing to use to much force against another NATO member. What side do Serbs side with if needed?
(george56, 15 August 2020 02:48)
===…==
Serbs will NOT be needed because Serbia is not a NATO member. Nothing to do with Serbia.
Isn't it great that Serbia didn't get into NATO. Now what will Montenegro do? What will Croatia do?
BUT, if a war spreads beyond NATO my guess is Serbia will side with Greece.
(Peggy, 17 August 2020 04:38)
Will see how it goes but Greece is blackmailing Europe with this story.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 15 August 2020 19:27)
===…==
Disagree, this is not a matter of blackmail but a matter of right and wrong. Now if EU says it's wrong of Turkey to enter these waters because agreement states that, then Turkey is wrong.
Just because Greece doesn't want to start an armed conflict (which is exactly what Turkey wants) doesn't make them wrong. Maybe they don't think they could win alone, again doesn't make them wrong.
The problem here is that one NATO country is provoking another NATO country into war. What will NATO do to fix this is anyone's guess. Turkey needs this conflict as an excuse to flood Europe with "migrant" they have been training for war for a few years now.
(Peggy, 17 August 2020 04:35)
As for js post. Please grow up.
This is more serious than the Nike sport shoes.
This is about serious conflict.
And if war between Nato and Turkey do not happend this time it will next time soon.
Because of Turkey the way it is.
Nike? Its laughable they are everywhere. Your post is silly.
(British, 16 August 2020 11:49)
Nikes are as important as anything else, war included. Nikes are an indication that people are taking their cues from ungodly society. Consider the Nike situation. Some guys with large biceps and quick reflexes excel at a sport. A company buys their "name," puts it on shoes, manufactures them in a sweat shop in Bangladesh, and you pay $125 for them. You are proud to throw $75 down the drain just to have your name associated with some athlete who contributed nothing practical to society. Plus those styles are dictated in cities rather than local communities. It's a very bad situation. I wear opanci. I can't do anything about Mediterranean tensions between Turkey and Greece. But I can put opanci on my son's feet, and I can teach him why we love our opanci.
(JS, 16 August 2020 19:41)
Sorry, it is the Turkey who started this conflict.And refuses to back off.
Like I say Greece government did talk to the other side to no avail. Its like Serbia talking to Siptari over the years to no results. And one can talk to them until one is blue in the face. All they sign they refer the following day as a loo paper if it is why bother wishing to join internazionsl organisations?
Here,why Mr Erdoğan do not pack his ships and go back home? Would not be that best way for everyone and never enter the waters in question until arbitration Court make a decision.
Greece is ortodox country and is our duty to stand shoulder to shoulder with them.
They have Nato on their side and our help may not be required to give a bloody nose to Turkey.
(British, 16 August 2020 18:19)
EU are powerless to stop Turkey. Turkey has the biggest and strongest military in NATO after the USA.
The rest of the EU just rely on USA which Trump want to stop the leeching.
(Al, 16 August 2020 18:02)
For Concerned Albanian. I liked your comment although I have some things that I think in different way. Greece has never had any hegemony in the Aegean Sea. But NOW is trying to build one, and is using Egypt, US, Israel, France. Is trying to force Turkey in a minor corner. And remember that the dispute on the Aegean is a precedent for the dispute on the Jonian Sea. Greece had the agreement with Italy and now is our turn. Ali Ahmeti is one of the most corrupted politicians albanians have. He ruled with Gruevski and will rule with everybody who guaranties him and his cronies some jobs in public administrate. Ahmeti cares only for his chair as did Gruevski or this guy here Zaev. Turkey won't back down and has all the right to do so. Greece simply pretends that for every rock in the Aegean and the Jonian to have the same exclusive economic rights as for the continental shelf. Its not right. Its not just. And its not fair that Greece tries to throw against Turkey Egypt and Israel. My opinion.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 16 August 2020 17:42)
I imagine to be at least 78 days of intensive bombing. Unless it spills over into the neighbourhood, albania, kosovo*.
Greeks are very peaceful nation, but they are right to involve NATO.
With Turkey they have tried zjis&that. And patience is running thin.
As for js post. Please grow up.
This is more serious than the Nike sport shoes.
This is about serious conflict.
And if war between Nato and Turkey do not happend this time it will next time soon.
Because of Turkey the way it is.
Nike? Its laughable they are everywhere. Your post is silly.
(British, 16 August 2020 11:49)
Get this through your thick head, Macedonia is and alway will be Hellenic, not Albanian or Slavic. Alexander the Great ruled many ethnic groups and unified them under Hellenic laws.
(Jugoslavia, 15 August 2020 16:47)
Hellenic? Is that why all the youth are sporting Nikes? I would say Greece is more a wannabe of New York or Paris than anything traditionally Hellenic. The same goes for the Albanians. The Gorani people, less so.
(JS, 15 August 2020 21:27)
I am with Erdo and the turks. They are the only ones in this story to declare they have no need for any other state to help them but they will defend till the end their rights. If Greece has the right in it's side why then Greece calls on americans and Israel to send their army? Its not just that a handful of small islands have more right on continental shelf than Turkey has. Greeks are showing themselves as cowards and they want to use this precedent also for Albania when delimitation of economic zones will be discussed. Will see how it goes but Greece is blackmailing Europe with this story.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 15 August 2020 19:27)
They must be talks if not, Turkey will win because the other nations will not be willing to use to much force against another NATO member. What side do Serbs side with if needed?
(george56, 15 August 2020 02:48)
BG will side with no one other than International law! Matters not whether Greece or Turkey are friends or enemies, what matters is THE LAW!!
(Watcherovic, 15 August 2020 18:32)
Delusional Albanian, Who the hell is Ahmeti to Unify Makedonia? Get this through your thick head, Macedonia is and alway will be Hellenic, not Albanian or Slavic. Alexander the Great ruled many ethnic groups and unified them under Hellenic laws.
(Jugoslavia, 15 August 2020 16:47)
Geprge56, I seriously doubt that an armed conflict will erupt. Perhaps a few threats and handbags at dawn but no war.
As for Serbia I suspect they will do their best to stay out of it. But if push came to shove I think that they will support Greece, as always. Why would they support the Turks when history shows that Turkey was an imperialist invading force which enflicted much death and destruction not only to Serbs but to other Balkan peoples.
(View from the uk, 15 August 2020 15:49)
May PEACE prevail.
Good on Greece for standing for her own rights.
And up to the bully
Greeks won't be bullied, no more.
(British, 15 August 2020 11:05)
It would be interesting to see how Slovenia, Croatia , Montenegro, and North Macedonia handle an open hostile situation with all of them being Nato members?
(george56, 15 August 2020 02:54)
They must be talks if not, Turkey will win because the other nations will not be willing to use to much force against another NATO member. What side do Serbs side with if needed?
(george56, 15 August 2020 02:48)
With all three NATO members, bordering Greece’s northern flank, compelled to lean toward regional-power Turkey, Greek hegemony in the Aegean is long dead. The determining factor prevaricates with Ali Ahmeti seizing the Macedonian throne. Ahmeti the commander, the visionary, the conqueror; only he has the courage to reunify the kingdom of Macedonia. The Bulgarians will pay homage to his likeness. For the Turks, the ultimatum must be delivered in the form of a red herring. Lessons learnt from the failings of Pearl Harbor are derived by obliterating the enemy’s military assets to the point of no return, if indeed the Turks are to save face with the Arab League. Greek campaigns in making international collect calls to its unholy Muslim ally will surely go unanswered. Ishmael stands in solidarity with a unified and independent Cyprus, and offers its heart and soul to the bereaved belligerents of Greece.
(Concerned Albanian, 15 August 2020 02:21)
May PEACE prevail.
Good on Greece for standing for her own rights.
And up to the bully
Greeks won't be bullied, no more.
(British, 15 August 2020 11:05)
Geprge56, I seriously doubt that an armed conflict will erupt. Perhaps a few threats and handbags at dawn but no war.
As for Serbia I suspect they will do their best to stay out of it. But if push came to shove I think that they will support Greece, as always. Why would they support the Turks when history shows that Turkey was an imperialist invading force which enflicted much death and destruction not only to Serbs but to other Balkan peoples.
(View from the uk, 15 August 2020 15:49)
Sorry, it is the Turkey who started this conflict.And refuses to back off.
Like I say Greece government did talk to the other side to no avail. Its like Serbia talking to Siptari over the years to no results. And one can talk to them until one is blue in the face. All they sign they refer the following day as a loo paper if it is why bother wishing to join internazionsl organisations?
Here,why Mr Erdoğan do not pack his ships and go back home? Would not be that best way for everyone and never enter the waters in question until arbitration Court make a decision.
Greece is ortodox country and is our duty to stand shoulder to shoulder with them.
They have Nato on their side and our help may not be required to give a bloody nose to Turkey.
(British, 16 August 2020 18:19)
Alexander the Great was Croatian just like Nikola Tesla and Marco Polo. No sorry the were all Kosovo* Albanians. Oh that Blue flag with fake map created recently.
That is a flag from centuries ago.
Who says it is new???
(Smart Serb, 17 August 2020 16:16)
js,
"opanci" have been a part of traditional dressing in the former Yugoslavia. Especially in the remote villages
Since other footwear "opanci" are part of narod a nosnja in rep Serbia.
And I love to see colorful outfits and "opsnci"
We, Serbs are very proud of our traditional nsrodna nosnja.
(British, 17 August 2020 06:47)
I imagine to be at least 78 days of intensive bombing. Unless it spills over into the neighbourhood, albania, kosovo*.
Greeks are very peaceful nation, but they are right to involve NATO.
With Turkey they have tried zjis&that. And patience is running thin.
As for js post. Please grow up.
This is more serious than the Nike sport shoes.
This is about serious conflict.
And if war between Nato and Turkey do not happend this time it will next time soon.
Because of Turkey the way it is.
Nike? Its laughable they are everywhere. Your post is silly.
(British, 16 August 2020 11:49)
Greece and Turkey held many talks.
Macron did, Merkel too. EU, NATO.
To no avail.
And EU issued several warnings to the Turkey.
How Mr Erdoğan deals with the matter is to send in 2 more ships in the disputed area.
Help!
The only thing I do not understand is ISRAEL poking its nose.
(British, 17 August 2020 16:13)
Delusional Albanian, Who the hell is Ahmeti to Unify Makedonia? Get this through your thick head, Macedonia is and alway will be Hellenic, not Albanian or Slavic. Alexander the Great ruled many ethnic groups and unified them under Hellenic laws.
(Jugoslavia, 15 August 2020 16:47)
It would be interesting to see how Slovenia, Croatia , Montenegro, and North Macedonia handle an open hostile situation with all of them being Nato members?
(george56, 15 August 2020 02:54)
EU are powerless to stop Turkey. Turkey has the biggest and strongest military in NATO after the USA.
The rest of the EU just rely on USA which Trump want to stop the leeching.
(Al, 16 August 2020 18:02)
They must be talks if not, Turkey will win because the other nations will not be willing to use to much force against another NATO member. What side do Serbs side with if needed?
(george56, 15 August 2020 02:48)
BG will side with no one other than International law! Matters not whether Greece or Turkey are friends or enemies, what matters is THE LAW!!
(Watcherovic, 15 August 2020 18:32)
They must be talks if not, Turkey will win because the other nations will not be willing to use to much force against another NATO member. What side do Serbs side with if needed?
(george56, 15 August 2020 02:48)
With all three NATO members, bordering Greece’s northern flank, compelled to lean toward regional-power Turkey, Greek hegemony in the Aegean is long dead. The determining factor prevaricates with Ali Ahmeti seizing the Macedonian throne. Ahmeti the commander, the visionary, the conqueror; only he has the courage to reunify the kingdom of Macedonia. The Bulgarians will pay homage to his likeness. For the Turks, the ultimatum must be delivered in the form of a red herring. Lessons learnt from the failings of Pearl Harbor are derived by obliterating the enemy’s military assets to the point of no return, if indeed the Turks are to save face with the Arab League. Greek campaigns in making international collect calls to its unholy Muslim ally will surely go unanswered. Ishmael stands in solidarity with a unified and independent Cyprus, and offers its heart and soul to the bereaved belligerents of Greece.
(Concerned Albanian, 15 August 2020 02:21)
Get this through your thick head, Macedonia is and alway will be Hellenic, not Albanian or Slavic. Alexander the Great ruled many ethnic groups and unified them under Hellenic laws.
(Jugoslavia, 15 August 2020 16:47)
Hellenic? Is that why all the youth are sporting Nikes? I would say Greece is more a wannabe of New York or Paris than anything traditionally Hellenic. The same goes for the Albanians. The Gorani people, less so.
(JS, 15 August 2020 21:27)
They must be talks if not, Turkey will win because the other nations will not be willing to use to much force against another NATO member. What side do Serbs side with if needed?
(george56, 15 August 2020 02:48)
===…==
Serbs will NOT be needed because Serbia is not a NATO member. Nothing to do with Serbia.
Isn't it great that Serbia didn't get into NATO. Now what will Montenegro do? What will Croatia do?
BUT, if a war spreads beyond NATO my guess is Serbia will side with Greece.
(Peggy, 17 August 2020 04:38)
Will see how it goes but Greece is blackmailing Europe with this story.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 15 August 2020 19:27)
===…==
Disagree, this is not a matter of blackmail but a matter of right and wrong. Now if EU says it's wrong of Turkey to enter these waters because agreement states that, then Turkey is wrong.
Just because Greece doesn't want to start an armed conflict (which is exactly what Turkey wants) doesn't make them wrong. Maybe they don't think they could win alone, again doesn't make them wrong.
The problem here is that one NATO country is provoking another NATO country into war. What will NATO do to fix this is anyone's guess. Turkey needs this conflict as an excuse to flood Europe with "migrant" they have been training for war for a few years now.
(Peggy, 17 August 2020 04:35)
As for js post. Please grow up.
This is more serious than the Nike sport shoes.
This is about serious conflict.
And if war between Nato and Turkey do not happend this time it will next time soon.
Because of Turkey the way it is.
Nike? Its laughable they are everywhere. Your post is silly.
(British, 16 August 2020 11:49)
Nikes are as important as anything else, war included. Nikes are an indication that people are taking their cues from ungodly society. Consider the Nike situation. Some guys with large biceps and quick reflexes excel at a sport. A company buys their "name," puts it on shoes, manufactures them in a sweat shop in Bangladesh, and you pay $125 for them. You are proud to throw $75 down the drain just to have your name associated with some athlete who contributed nothing practical to society. Plus those styles are dictated in cities rather than local communities. It's a very bad situation. I wear opanci. I can't do anything about Mediterranean tensions between Turkey and Greece. But I can put opanci on my son's feet, and I can teach him why we love our opanci.
(JS, 16 August 2020 19:41)
I am with Erdo and the turks. They are the only ones in this story to declare they have no need for any other state to help them but they will defend till the end their rights. If Greece has the right in it's side why then Greece calls on americans and Israel to send their army? Its not just that a handful of small islands have more right on continental shelf than Turkey has. Greeks are showing themselves as cowards and they want to use this precedent also for Albania when delimitation of economic zones will be discussed. Will see how it goes but Greece is blackmailing Europe with this story.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 15 August 2020 19:27)
Greece is ortodox country and is our duty to stand shoulder to shoulder with them.
They have Nato on their side and our help may not be required to give a bloody nose to Turkey.
(British, 16 August 2020 18:19)
You are a British but orthodox, and you call the Albanians “siptari “ ? Hmmmm . What’s hiding behind your name
(Albanian American, 17 August 2020 14:41)
For Concerned Albanian. I liked your comment although I have some things that I think in different way. Greece has never had any hegemony in the Aegean Sea. But NOW is trying to build one, and is using Egypt, US, Israel, France. Is trying to force Turkey in a minor corner. And remember that the dispute on the Aegean is a precedent for the dispute on the Jonian Sea. Greece had the agreement with Italy and now is our turn. Ali Ahmeti is one of the most corrupted politicians albanians have. He ruled with Gruevski and will rule with everybody who guaranties him and his cronies some jobs in public administrate. Ahmeti cares only for his chair as did Gruevski or this guy here Zaev. Turkey won't back down and has all the right to do so. Greece simply pretends that for every rock in the Aegean and the Jonian to have the same exclusive economic rights as for the continental shelf. Its not right. Its not just. And its not fair that Greece tries to throw against Turkey Egypt and Israel. My opinion.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 16 August 2020 17:42)
Albanian Americsn
What's hiding behind my name?
I quess it's my surname.
Anyone intelligent would know it.
But no if you are albanian american.
(British, 8 September 2020 08:28)
With all three NATO members, bordering Greece’s northern flank, compelled to lean toward regional-power Turkey, Greek hegemony in the Aegean is long dead. The determining factor prevaricates with Ali Ahmeti seizing the Macedonian throne. Ahmeti the commander, the visionary, the conqueror; only he has the courage to reunify the kingdom of Macedonia. The Bulgarians will pay homage to his likeness. For the Turks, the ultimatum must be delivered in the form of a red herring. Lessons learnt from the failings of Pearl Harbor are derived by obliterating the enemy’s military assets to the point of no return, if indeed the Turks are to save face with the Arab League. Greek campaigns in making international collect calls to its unholy Muslim ally will surely go unanswered. Ishmael stands in solidarity with a unified and independent Cyprus, and offers its heart and soul to the bereaved belligerents of Greece.
(Concerned Albanian, 15 August 2020 02:21)
I am with Erdo and the turks. They are the only ones in this story to declare they have no need for any other state to help them but they will defend till the end their rights. If Greece has the right in it's side why then Greece calls on americans and Israel to send their army? Its not just that a handful of small islands have more right on continental shelf than Turkey has. Greeks are showing themselves as cowards and they want to use this precedent also for Albania when delimitation of economic zones will be discussed. Will see how it goes but Greece is blackmailing Europe with this story.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 15 August 2020 19:27)
EU are powerless to stop Turkey. Turkey has the biggest and strongest military in NATO after the USA.
The rest of the EU just rely on USA which Trump want to stop the leeching.
(Al, 16 August 2020 18:02)
For Concerned Albanian. I liked your comment although I have some things that I think in different way. Greece has never had any hegemony in the Aegean Sea. But NOW is trying to build one, and is using Egypt, US, Israel, France. Is trying to force Turkey in a minor corner. And remember that the dispute on the Aegean is a precedent for the dispute on the Jonian Sea. Greece had the agreement with Italy and now is our turn. Ali Ahmeti is one of the most corrupted politicians albanians have. He ruled with Gruevski and will rule with everybody who guaranties him and his cronies some jobs in public administrate. Ahmeti cares only for his chair as did Gruevski or this guy here Zaev. Turkey won't back down and has all the right to do so. Greece simply pretends that for every rock in the Aegean and the Jonian to have the same exclusive economic rights as for the continental shelf. Its not right. Its not just. And its not fair that Greece tries to throw against Turkey Egypt and Israel. My opinion.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 16 August 2020 17:42)
They must be talks if not, Turkey will win because the other nations will not be willing to use to much force against another NATO member. What side do Serbs side with if needed?
(george56, 15 August 2020 02:48)
Greece is ortodox country and is our duty to stand shoulder to shoulder with them.
They have Nato on their side and our help may not be required to give a bloody nose to Turkey.
(British, 16 August 2020 18:19)
You are a British but orthodox, and you call the Albanians “siptari “ ? Hmmmm . What’s hiding behind your name
(Albanian American, 17 August 2020 14:41)
They must be talks if not, Turkey will win because the other nations will not be willing to use to much force against another NATO member. What side do Serbs side with if needed?
(george56, 15 August 2020 02:48)
===…==
Serbs will NOT be needed because Serbia is not a NATO member. Nothing to do with Serbia.
Isn't it great that Serbia didn't get into NATO. Now what will Montenegro do? What will Croatia do?
BUT, if a war spreads beyond NATO my guess is Serbia will side with Greece.
(Peggy, 17 August 2020 04:38)
Will see how it goes but Greece is blackmailing Europe with this story.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 15 August 2020 19:27)
===…==
Disagree, this is not a matter of blackmail but a matter of right and wrong. Now if EU says it's wrong of Turkey to enter these waters because agreement states that, then Turkey is wrong.
Just because Greece doesn't want to start an armed conflict (which is exactly what Turkey wants) doesn't make them wrong. Maybe they don't think they could win alone, again doesn't make them wrong.
The problem here is that one NATO country is provoking another NATO country into war. What will NATO do to fix this is anyone's guess. Turkey needs this conflict as an excuse to flood Europe with "migrant" they have been training for war for a few years now.
(Peggy, 17 August 2020 04:35)
Get this through your thick head, Macedonia is and alway will be Hellenic, not Albanian or Slavic. Alexander the Great ruled many ethnic groups and unified them under Hellenic laws.
(Jugoslavia, 15 August 2020 16:47)
Hellenic? Is that why all the youth are sporting Nikes? I would say Greece is more a wannabe of New York or Paris than anything traditionally Hellenic. The same goes for the Albanians. The Gorani people, less so.
(JS, 15 August 2020 21:27)
As for js post. Please grow up.
This is more serious than the Nike sport shoes.
This is about serious conflict.
And if war between Nato and Turkey do not happend this time it will next time soon.
Because of Turkey the way it is.
Nike? Its laughable they are everywhere. Your post is silly.
(British, 16 August 2020 11:49)
Nikes are as important as anything else, war included. Nikes are an indication that people are taking their cues from ungodly society. Consider the Nike situation. Some guys with large biceps and quick reflexes excel at a sport. A company buys their "name," puts it on shoes, manufactures them in a sweat shop in Bangladesh, and you pay $125 for them. You are proud to throw $75 down the drain just to have your name associated with some athlete who contributed nothing practical to society. Plus those styles are dictated in cities rather than local communities. It's a very bad situation. I wear opanci. I can't do anything about Mediterranean tensions between Turkey and Greece. But I can put opanci on my son's feet, and I can teach him why we love our opanci.
(JS, 16 August 2020 19:41)
It would be interesting to see how Slovenia, Croatia , Montenegro, and North Macedonia handle an open hostile situation with all of them being Nato members?
(george56, 15 August 2020 02:54)
They must be talks if not, Turkey will win because the other nations will not be willing to use to much force against another NATO member. What side do Serbs side with if needed?
(george56, 15 August 2020 02:48)
BG will side with no one other than International law! Matters not whether Greece or Turkey are friends or enemies, what matters is THE LAW!!
(Watcherovic, 15 August 2020 18:32)
Delusional Albanian, Who the hell is Ahmeti to Unify Makedonia? Get this through your thick head, Macedonia is and alway will be Hellenic, not Albanian or Slavic. Alexander the Great ruled many ethnic groups and unified them under Hellenic laws.
(Jugoslavia, 15 August 2020 16:47)
May PEACE prevail.
Good on Greece for standing for her own rights.
And up to the bully
Greeks won't be bullied, no more.
(British, 15 August 2020 11:05)
Sorry, it is the Turkey who started this conflict.And refuses to back off.
Like I say Greece government did talk to the other side to no avail. Its like Serbia talking to Siptari over the years to no results. And one can talk to them until one is blue in the face. All they sign they refer the following day as a loo paper if it is why bother wishing to join internazionsl organisations?
Here,why Mr Erdoğan do not pack his ships and go back home? Would not be that best way for everyone and never enter the waters in question until arbitration Court make a decision.
Greece is ortodox country and is our duty to stand shoulder to shoulder with them.
They have Nato on their side and our help may not be required to give a bloody nose to Turkey.
(British, 16 August 2020 18:19)
Geprge56, I seriously doubt that an armed conflict will erupt. Perhaps a few threats and handbags at dawn but no war.
As for Serbia I suspect they will do their best to stay out of it. But if push came to shove I think that they will support Greece, as always. Why would they support the Turks when history shows that Turkey was an imperialist invading force which enflicted much death and destruction not only to Serbs but to other Balkan peoples.
(View from the uk, 15 August 2020 15:49)
Alexander the Great was Croatian just like Nikola Tesla and Marco Polo. No sorry the were all Kosovo* Albanians. Oh that Blue flag with fake map created recently.
That is a flag from centuries ago.
Who says it is new???
(Smart Serb, 17 August 2020 16:16)
js,
"opanci" have been a part of traditional dressing in the former Yugoslavia. Especially in the remote villages
Since other footwear "opanci" are part of narod a nosnja in rep Serbia.
And I love to see colorful outfits and "opsnci"
We, Serbs are very proud of our traditional nsrodna nosnja.
(British, 17 August 2020 06:47)
Greece and Turkey held many talks.
Macron did, Merkel too. EU, NATO.
To no avail.
And EU issued several warnings to the Turkey.
How Mr Erdoğan deals with the matter is to send in 2 more ships in the disputed area.
Help!
The only thing I do not understand is ISRAEL poking its nose.
(British, 17 August 2020 16:13)
I imagine to be at least 78 days of intensive bombing. Unless it spills over into the neighbourhood, albania, kosovo*.
Greeks are very peaceful nation, but they are right to involve NATO.
With Turkey they have tried zjis&that. And patience is running thin.
As for js post. Please grow up.
This is more serious than the Nike sport shoes.
This is about serious conflict.
And if war between Nato and Turkey do not happend this time it will next time soon.
Because of Turkey the way it is.
Nike? Its laughable they are everywhere. Your post is silly.
(British, 16 August 2020 11:49)
Albanian Americsn
What's hiding behind my name?
I quess it's my surname.
Anyone intelligent would know it.
But no if you are albanian american.
(British, 8 September 2020 08:28)