BELGRADE -- Serbian President pointed out that it's important for the civil sector to be strong in Serbia, along with the laws being applied equally to everyone.
Vučić: Do you always have to hate everything in this country?
BELGRADE -- Serbian President pointed out that it's important for the civil sector to be strong in Serbia, along with the laws being applied equally to everyone.
Source: Tanjug
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Tanjug, Dragan Kujundžić
When asked how he sees rather nervous reactions of the non-governmental sector pertaining to money control, as well as the reaction of the American Embassy that this "seems to be a selective action" of the Administration for Prevention of Money Laundering, Aleksandar Vucic said that everything is always considered to be politics here.
He pointed out that there can be no difference when it comes to the application of the law.
In that context, he says that one of the ministers called him this morning and asked why he was also on the list of the Administration for the Prevention of Money Laundering.
He also notes that it is always necessary to "make fuss" in order to get more money from donors.
"Whenever they are allegedly endangered, they get a little more money," Vucic said, commenting on the reactions of the non-governmental sector.
As he said, he has not commented on that so far, but he was waiting to be found guilty again for something that is happening in Serbia.
Commenting on how his guilt can be seen in everything, offering meaningless arguments, he referred to the remark of Milan Antonijevic from the Open Society Foundation that the monument of Stefan Nemanja will have "turn its back to the clock at the train station".
"Imagine, turning back to the clock... So, what should we say about Prince Mihajlo, who turned his back to the National Museum? What should we do with the monument of "The Victor" (Pobednik), whose back is turned to the whole city of Belgrade? And those who were against the fountain on Slavija - if someone asked them what is wrong with the fountain, no one would know what to say, even though the previous roundabout was ugly", Vučić explained, adding that one has to get used to always being guilty.
"Do you always have to hate everything in this country?" Vucic asked, referring to the non-governmental sector.
@ Sammy Joe,
A piece of advice do not reply any of questions by "ataman" "
Ignore it.
(British, 2 August 2020 16:48)
Thanks for warning - luckily my far relative, Саманта Пацовић had no intention to talk to him.
Unfortunately she can’t talk to you right now: as a world-famous pizza specialist she is busy working her shift in NY.
Let me tell you our story and why I believe you. Numerous ancestors of my b/f Джери Мишић rode the old dining cars precisely of that Hungarian train for free.
But one sad day the old dining cars were replaced for sanitary reason and nearly all “Мишић” and "Пацовић” died in a horrible genocide.
B92 had strong bias, this genocide was never reported here.
The few remaining “Мишић” settled somewhere in southern Serbia - and my dream is to meet my love there.
But the legend of free meal and free ride on Hungarian trains is still alive.
I know, you telling the truth about your free train ride. You, as Лилjана Пацовић should be proud of your achievement on that train
For example, I can write out $589 million in checks in the States and never need to provide the slightest shred of evidence where the money comes from. But the second that I want to buy a 5-hectare seventh-class field in some distance village that no one cares about for 15,000 Euros, I have to come up with a mountain of paperwork to prove where that 15,000 Euros came from! That has nothing to do with IT issues, employee performance, or even the efficiency of the bank itself. It has everything to say about the stupid laws in Serbia, and Vucic is at the top of the chain of command.
(Atamanov brat od strica, 1 August 2020 10:45)
Believe me, the moment you are talking about anything over $10K "they" know your W-2 or 1099 anytime "they" want. As long as you have your W-2s and / or 1099-s kind of straight, no one in IRS will ask anything. If you write a $589mio check, most likely it will pass under the limbo - unless "they" have a clout.
In EU it is quite different, what you say applies to HU and FR. The limit in FR or HU could be more. In addition to that, HU has to report FatCa ( = to Americans, IRS), FR is the only country which does not.
I don't have and never had anything over 5K in FR and I don't have any bank account in HU.
My wife does have as she works in HU, the amount there is rarely over, say, 1K or 2K in Euros.
We keep USAA, Andrews FCU for all serious banking. In addition to that, Andrews DOES finance cars overseas.
(Ataman, 2 August 2020 07:27)
Carry on as xou mean to go on.
After months of absence we visited rep Serbia and noticed a huge improvement. Happier people.
Towns, cities buzzing.
Of course a work on improving towns, cities never finishes.
(British, 1 August 2020 16:44)
Ataman,
My experience in France was quite pleasant, including banking. Perhaps it was just you!
(Sammy Joe, 31 July 2020 21:16)
My experience in France is still quite pleasant, including banking. Except one bank for a duration of 10 minutes. Please read again what I wrote. One unpleasant bank for 10+ pleasant ones is a good experience.
By the way:
- can you elaborate, what part of France you did visit and how many times?
- French Inter City trains have a surcharge which is more, than 565 HUF = 1.64 Euro.
Maybe you can elaborate, what is the cheapest way to get on a TGV in France using EuRail or InterRail? Not 100% legal, but people do that. The price is fixed and is not much.
How it is called?
These bad-bad trains. From Budapest Airport to Szeged. Or from Strasbourg to Nice. always a problem for trolls. Alternatively you can maybe elaborate, how and where you pay freeway toll in France.
(Ataman, 1 August 2020 13:16)
This is the answer to a post below. The problem described there is quite bad and annoying - but has marginal connection with Serbia or Vucic.
(Ataman, 30 July 2020 16:08)
So you're saying that the employees are not to blame, and this has no connection with Vucic or Serbia? The laws are quite ridiculous compared to the States. For example, I can write out $589 million in checks in the States and never need to provide the slightest shred of evidence where the money comes from. But the second that I want to buy a 5-hectare seventh-class field in some distance village that no one cares about for 15,000 Euros, I have to come up with a mountain of paperwork to prove where that 15,000 Euros came from! That has nothing to do with IT issues, employee performance, or even the efficiency of the bank itself. It has everything to say about the stupid laws in Serbia, and Vucic is at the top of the chain of command.
(Atamanov brat od strica, 1 August 2020 10:45)
The money laundering laws in this country are excessive. Banking takes fifteen times longer to finish here than in the States.
(Atamanov brat od strica, 30 July 2020 15:20)
This reminds me of FatCa. Hope, you don't reveal your U.S. passport.
The only country which ignores FatCa is France but you still need an appointment weeks ahead
if you want to open a bank account there. On the other side they are legally required to open a bank account for anyone. Still, Caisse d'Epargne in S*im refused to open an account for me because as they said: "we don't like Americans". Number of asterisks does not correspond to letters in the name of the village.
Of course I did not persist: do you want to open an account in a bank where they would greet you: "we don't like Americans"?
There are enough banks elsewhere, next door.
(Ataman, 30 July 2020 23:32)
Reality check: most, if not all banking, administrating and even border control software is not made in Serbia. The software has hideous user interface, requires extensive training - and has more bugs, than features.
Opening a bank account, passing the Ukrainian - Belarus border, buying an insurance is now a challenge. If the traveler is lucky, the friendly border guards or bank employees will let him take a look at their workload.
Who sees it, will vomit at the first sight of disorganized dialog windows, redundant questions, fatal bugs requiring restart and even BSOD.
U.S. is not that bad yet, but changes are coming and slowly taking over.
Root causes:
- Managers not understanding software specs.
- Desire to save costs at any cost.
- Contracted software company representatives not speaking English (or other languages) properly.
- Contracted software company acting in bad faith.
- Bad QA
Good example of EU-project went the bad way: ETIAS.
All others are like that.
Solution: each country should write own administration software. This is an excellent project for younger, local engineers. Makes them busy with better results.
This is the answer to a post below. The problem described there is quite bad and annoying - but has marginal connection with Serbia or Vucic.
(Ataman, 30 July 2020 16:08)
Atamanovic that's why keep my money under the matters and gold, silver buried.
Tried and true never fail method from the crooked sticky fingers.
Just don't tell any one.
(Lenard, 30 July 2020 15:54)
The money laundering laws in this country are excessive. Banking takes fifteen times longer to finish here than in the States. Now add in the lengthy wait times because of social distancing and banks going overboard on how many customers may be treated at a time and you have a recipe for disaster.
(Atamanov brat od strica, 30 July 2020 15:20)
Carry on as xou mean to go on.
After months of absence we visited rep Serbia and noticed a huge improvement. Happier people.
Towns, cities buzzing.
Of course a work on improving towns, cities never finishes.
(British, 1 August 2020 16:44)
Atamanovic that's why keep my money under the matters and gold, silver buried.
Tried and true never fail method from the crooked sticky fingers.
Just don't tell any one.
(Lenard, 30 July 2020 15:54)
The money laundering laws in this country are excessive. Banking takes fifteen times longer to finish here than in the States. Now add in the lengthy wait times because of social distancing and banks going overboard on how many customers may be treated at a time and you have a recipe for disaster.
(Atamanov brat od strica, 30 July 2020 15:20)
This is the answer to a post below. The problem described there is quite bad and annoying - but has marginal connection with Serbia or Vucic.
(Ataman, 30 July 2020 16:08)
So you're saying that the employees are not to blame, and this has no connection with Vucic or Serbia? The laws are quite ridiculous compared to the States. For example, I can write out $589 million in checks in the States and never need to provide the slightest shred of evidence where the money comes from. But the second that I want to buy a 5-hectare seventh-class field in some distance village that no one cares about for 15,000 Euros, I have to come up with a mountain of paperwork to prove where that 15,000 Euros came from! That has nothing to do with IT issues, employee performance, or even the efficiency of the bank itself. It has everything to say about the stupid laws in Serbia, and Vucic is at the top of the chain of command.
(Atamanov brat od strica, 1 August 2020 10:45)
For example, I can write out $589 million in checks in the States and never need to provide the slightest shred of evidence where the money comes from. But the second that I want to buy a 5-hectare seventh-class field in some distance village that no one cares about for 15,000 Euros, I have to come up with a mountain of paperwork to prove where that 15,000 Euros came from! That has nothing to do with IT issues, employee performance, or even the efficiency of the bank itself. It has everything to say about the stupid laws in Serbia, and Vucic is at the top of the chain of command.
(Atamanov brat od strica, 1 August 2020 10:45)
Believe me, the moment you are talking about anything over $10K "they" know your W-2 or 1099 anytime "they" want. As long as you have your W-2s and / or 1099-s kind of straight, no one in IRS will ask anything. If you write a $589mio check, most likely it will pass under the limbo - unless "they" have a clout.
In EU it is quite different, what you say applies to HU and FR. The limit in FR or HU could be more. In addition to that, HU has to report FatCa ( = to Americans, IRS), FR is the only country which does not.
I don't have and never had anything over 5K in FR and I don't have any bank account in HU.
My wife does have as she works in HU, the amount there is rarely over, say, 1K or 2K in Euros.
We keep USAA, Andrews FCU for all serious banking. In addition to that, Andrews DOES finance cars overseas.
(Ataman, 2 August 2020 07:27)
Ataman,
My experience in France was quite pleasant, including banking. Perhaps it was just you!
(Sammy Joe, 31 July 2020 21:16)
My experience in France is still quite pleasant, including banking. Except one bank for a duration of 10 minutes. Please read again what I wrote. One unpleasant bank for 10+ pleasant ones is a good experience.
By the way:
- can you elaborate, what part of France you did visit and how many times?
- French Inter City trains have a surcharge which is more, than 565 HUF = 1.64 Euro.
Maybe you can elaborate, what is the cheapest way to get on a TGV in France using EuRail or InterRail? Not 100% legal, but people do that. The price is fixed and is not much.
How it is called?
These bad-bad trains. From Budapest Airport to Szeged. Or from Strasbourg to Nice. always a problem for trolls. Alternatively you can maybe elaborate, how and where you pay freeway toll in France.
(Ataman, 1 August 2020 13:16)
Reality check: most, if not all banking, administrating and even border control software is not made in Serbia. The software has hideous user interface, requires extensive training - and has more bugs, than features.
Opening a bank account, passing the Ukrainian - Belarus border, buying an insurance is now a challenge. If the traveler is lucky, the friendly border guards or bank employees will let him take a look at their workload.
Who sees it, will vomit at the first sight of disorganized dialog windows, redundant questions, fatal bugs requiring restart and even BSOD.
U.S. is not that bad yet, but changes are coming and slowly taking over.
Root causes:
- Managers not understanding software specs.
- Desire to save costs at any cost.
- Contracted software company representatives not speaking English (or other languages) properly.
- Contracted software company acting in bad faith.
- Bad QA
Good example of EU-project went the bad way: ETIAS.
All others are like that.
Solution: each country should write own administration software. This is an excellent project for younger, local engineers. Makes them busy with better results.
This is the answer to a post below. The problem described there is quite bad and annoying - but has marginal connection with Serbia or Vucic.
(Ataman, 30 July 2020 16:08)
The money laundering laws in this country are excessive. Banking takes fifteen times longer to finish here than in the States.
(Atamanov brat od strica, 30 July 2020 15:20)
This reminds me of FatCa. Hope, you don't reveal your U.S. passport.
The only country which ignores FatCa is France but you still need an appointment weeks ahead
if you want to open a bank account there. On the other side they are legally required to open a bank account for anyone. Still, Caisse d'Epargne in S*im refused to open an account for me because as they said: "we don't like Americans". Number of asterisks does not correspond to letters in the name of the village.
Of course I did not persist: do you want to open an account in a bank where they would greet you: "we don't like Americans"?
There are enough banks elsewhere, next door.
(Ataman, 30 July 2020 23:32)
@ Sammy Joe,
A piece of advice do not reply any of questions by "ataman" "
Ignore it.
(British, 2 August 2020 16:48)
Thanks for warning - luckily my far relative, Саманта Пацовић had no intention to talk to him.
Unfortunately she can’t talk to you right now: as a world-famous pizza specialist she is busy working her shift in NY.
Let me tell you our story and why I believe you. Numerous ancestors of my b/f Джери Мишић rode the old dining cars precisely of that Hungarian train for free.
But one sad day the old dining cars were replaced for sanitary reason and nearly all “Мишић” and "Пацовић” died in a horrible genocide.
B92 had strong bias, this genocide was never reported here.
The few remaining “Мишић” settled somewhere in southern Serbia - and my dream is to meet my love there.
But the legend of free meal and free ride on Hungarian trains is still alive.
I know, you telling the truth about your free train ride. You, as Лилjана Пацовић should be proud of your achievement on that train
The money laundering laws in this country are excessive. Banking takes fifteen times longer to finish here than in the States. Now add in the lengthy wait times because of social distancing and banks going overboard on how many customers may be treated at a time and you have a recipe for disaster.
(Atamanov brat od strica, 30 July 2020 15:20)
Ataman,
My experience in France was quite pleasant, including banking. Perhaps it was just you!
(Sammy Joe, 31 July 2020 21:16)
My experience in France is still quite pleasant, including banking. Except one bank for a duration of 10 minutes. Please read again what I wrote. One unpleasant bank for 10+ pleasant ones is a good experience.
By the way:
- can you elaborate, what part of France you did visit and how many times?
- French Inter City trains have a surcharge which is more, than 565 HUF = 1.64 Euro.
Maybe you can elaborate, what is the cheapest way to get on a TGV in France using EuRail or InterRail? Not 100% legal, but people do that. The price is fixed and is not much.
How it is called?
These bad-bad trains. From Budapest Airport to Szeged. Or from Strasbourg to Nice. always a problem for trolls. Alternatively you can maybe elaborate, how and where you pay freeway toll in France.
(Ataman, 1 August 2020 13:16)
Atamanovic that's why keep my money under the matters and gold, silver buried.
Tried and true never fail method from the crooked sticky fingers.
Just don't tell any one.
(Lenard, 30 July 2020 15:54)
Reality check: most, if not all banking, administrating and even border control software is not made in Serbia. The software has hideous user interface, requires extensive training - and has more bugs, than features.
Opening a bank account, passing the Ukrainian - Belarus border, buying an insurance is now a challenge. If the traveler is lucky, the friendly border guards or bank employees will let him take a look at their workload.
Who sees it, will vomit at the first sight of disorganized dialog windows, redundant questions, fatal bugs requiring restart and even BSOD.
U.S. is not that bad yet, but changes are coming and slowly taking over.
Root causes:
- Managers not understanding software specs.
- Desire to save costs at any cost.
- Contracted software company representatives not speaking English (or other languages) properly.
- Contracted software company acting in bad faith.
- Bad QA
Good example of EU-project went the bad way: ETIAS.
All others are like that.
Solution: each country should write own administration software. This is an excellent project for younger, local engineers. Makes them busy with better results.
This is the answer to a post below. The problem described there is quite bad and annoying - but has marginal connection with Serbia or Vucic.
(Ataman, 30 July 2020 16:08)
The money laundering laws in this country are excessive. Banking takes fifteen times longer to finish here than in the States.
(Atamanov brat od strica, 30 July 2020 15:20)
This reminds me of FatCa. Hope, you don't reveal your U.S. passport.
The only country which ignores FatCa is France but you still need an appointment weeks ahead
if you want to open a bank account there. On the other side they are legally required to open a bank account for anyone. Still, Caisse d'Epargne in S*im refused to open an account for me because as they said: "we don't like Americans". Number of asterisks does not correspond to letters in the name of the village.
Of course I did not persist: do you want to open an account in a bank where they would greet you: "we don't like Americans"?
There are enough banks elsewhere, next door.
(Ataman, 30 July 2020 23:32)
For example, I can write out $589 million in checks in the States and never need to provide the slightest shred of evidence where the money comes from. But the second that I want to buy a 5-hectare seventh-class field in some distance village that no one cares about for 15,000 Euros, I have to come up with a mountain of paperwork to prove where that 15,000 Euros came from! That has nothing to do with IT issues, employee performance, or even the efficiency of the bank itself. It has everything to say about the stupid laws in Serbia, and Vucic is at the top of the chain of command.
(Atamanov brat od strica, 1 August 2020 10:45)
Believe me, the moment you are talking about anything over $10K "they" know your W-2 or 1099 anytime "they" want. As long as you have your W-2s and / or 1099-s kind of straight, no one in IRS will ask anything. If you write a $589mio check, most likely it will pass under the limbo - unless "they" have a clout.
In EU it is quite different, what you say applies to HU and FR. The limit in FR or HU could be more. In addition to that, HU has to report FatCa ( = to Americans, IRS), FR is the only country which does not.
I don't have and never had anything over 5K in FR and I don't have any bank account in HU.
My wife does have as she works in HU, the amount there is rarely over, say, 1K or 2K in Euros.
We keep USAA, Andrews FCU for all serious banking. In addition to that, Andrews DOES finance cars overseas.
(Ataman, 2 August 2020 07:27)
This is the answer to a post below. The problem described there is quite bad and annoying - but has marginal connection with Serbia or Vucic.
(Ataman, 30 July 2020 16:08)
So you're saying that the employees are not to blame, and this has no connection with Vucic or Serbia? The laws are quite ridiculous compared to the States. For example, I can write out $589 million in checks in the States and never need to provide the slightest shred of evidence where the money comes from. But the second that I want to buy a 5-hectare seventh-class field in some distance village that no one cares about for 15,000 Euros, I have to come up with a mountain of paperwork to prove where that 15,000 Euros came from! That has nothing to do with IT issues, employee performance, or even the efficiency of the bank itself. It has everything to say about the stupid laws in Serbia, and Vucic is at the top of the chain of command.
(Atamanov brat od strica, 1 August 2020 10:45)
@ Sammy Joe,
A piece of advice do not reply any of questions by "ataman" "
Ignore it.
(British, 2 August 2020 16:48)
Thanks for warning - luckily my far relative, Саманта Пацовић had no intention to talk to him.
Unfortunately she can’t talk to you right now: as a world-famous pizza specialist she is busy working her shift in NY.
Let me tell you our story and why I believe you. Numerous ancestors of my b/f Джери Мишић rode the old dining cars precisely of that Hungarian train for free.
But one sad day the old dining cars were replaced for sanitary reason and nearly all “Мишић” and "Пацовић” died in a horrible genocide.
B92 had strong bias, this genocide was never reported here.
The few remaining “Мишић” settled somewhere in southern Serbia - and my dream is to meet my love there.
But the legend of free meal and free ride on Hungarian trains is still alive.
I know, you telling the truth about your free train ride. You, as Лилjана Пацовић should be proud of your achievement on that train
Carry on as xou mean to go on.
After months of absence we visited rep Serbia and noticed a huge improvement. Happier people.
Towns, cities buzzing.
Of course a work on improving towns, cities never finishes.
(British, 1 August 2020 16:44)