Commenting on the protests in Montenegro, US analyst Janusz Bugajski said that some members of the SPC were overreacting and that property should be allocated
"Some still believe that Montenegro belongs to Serbia"
Commenting on the protests in Montenegro, US analyst Janusz Bugajski said that some members of the SPC were overreacting and that property should be allocated
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"It is part of the rule of law and the system of registration of real estate and potential state property, especially given the fact that Montenegro has gone through so much, if I may say , the change of states since independence before the First World War", senior associate at the Center for European Policy Analysis Janusz Bugajski told "Voice of America", commenting on Serbia's reactions to the Montenegrin Freedom of Religion Act.
"I think the country should have a good register of ownership of that property. This does not necessarily mean that the property will be confiscated, but it does mean that we know who the owners are. I will remind you that there is a campaign throughout Eastern Europe to return property to owners, especially Jews who were confiscated during the Nazi occupation, or those who were confiscated during the communist rule".
"I think this is a good process and shows that Montenegro respects the rule of law. I think some members of the Serbian Orthodox Church are overreacting and have to be careful not to let radicals and nationalists use the church to undermine the Montenegrin state", Bugajski said.
The Venice Commission had some recommendations regarding the law and its implementation.
“The Venice Commission is very competent and the government has to take into account the things the commission pointed out during the implementation of the law. However, this does not affect the fact that there is a lot of property that has been confiscated by the Montenegrin Orthodox Church and the independent Montenegrin government and that it must it does not have to mean that the property will be taken back. It may not even have its original owners. But it has to be determined what it belongs to“, Bugajski concluded.
Adoption of the law also caused tensions between Montenegro and Serbia.
"There is an element in Serbian politics, both inside and outside the government, that seeks to undermine Montenegro's independence or its NATO membership. Unfortunately, there are still members of the Serbian elite and church who believe that Montenegro belongs to Serbia. Russia believes the same about Ukraine, and there are certain parallels here. Montenegro has its own independent church, which is not recognized in the same way that the Ukrainian church is recognized. However, it may happen in the near future. This cannot be ruled out. In order to maintain its independence, Montenegro must have its own institutions, and Serbia, on the other hand, cannot afford to enter into conflict with Montenegro, as this will undermine its progress, both towards the European Union and when it comes to stability within the country”, Bugajski said.
"Russia, of course, always plays a role in all this. Russia has not given up trying to destabilize Montenegro. Basically, part of Russian politics is to try to destabilize NATO from the inside. It can still use Serbian nationalism for this, this whole question Russia has suffered a major defeat in Ukraine, and does not want another one when it comes to the Serbian Orthodox Church, which is why it supports it as much as it could potentially lead Serbia and Montenegro towards violence. Russia will not suffer the consequences, but the local people, as always", Bugajski concluded.
If it was built by China, it is China’s. Beware Serbia of your own logic ... you have an investing “friend” in 🇨🇳.
(vari teneqen, 19 January 2020 05:01)
What makes you think that you serbs own a church , the religion came from Bible not from north pole where you guys unleashed yourselves toward balkans!
(leka, 16 January 2020 08:25)
Well because there are records go back centuries that show who built and paid for these churches and it clearly states it was the Serbs, that’s why.
Where we you educated? In a barn?
(sj, 17 January 2020 12:48)
What makes you think that you serbs own a church , the religion came from Bible not from north pole where you guys unleashed yourselves toward balkans!
(leka, 16 January 2020 08:25
===…==
If we have built it, we own it.
Go tell the Pope that all those Roman catholic churches and cathedrals belong to whichever country they are in.
Let's see how that flies. I wonder if even Trump could sell a Catholic cathedral. If he can't then the government doesn't own it. The Catholic church owns it and they are the only ones who can do whatever they want with it. Do you get the gist now?
(Peggy, 16 January 2020 23:34)
I am a Serb with Montenegro heritage my entire family from mothers and fathers side date back to the 1400's from Montenegro. As long as I know and have learned, we are all Serbian. This is the politics of the Albanians and CIA that have caused everything from the death of Yugoslavia to now the death of Montenegro.
(Danny, 16 January 2020 18:54)
Apostasy = not being in communion with the guy with the golden headgear in Moscow? That would be news to Jesus!
(Make Serbia Great, 15 January 2020 21:15)
Didn't know you had private discussions with Jesus? You might want to go to a mental ward as its more sociopathic tendencies than anything else.
(Jugoslavija, 16 January 2020 18:04)
This would have to be one of the most ludicrous statements ever posted. For your information NO ONE is stopping the "Montenegrins" from starting their own church or building a hundred if they so choose but they cant take away something that does not belong to them.
(sj, 15 January 2020 14:23)
What makes you think that you serbs own a church , the religion came from Bible not from north pole where you guys unleashed yourselves toward balkans!
(leka, 16 January 2020 08:25)
There is a reason that the apostasy churches in Montenegro, FYROM, Ukraine and other countries are not recognized by Patriarch Bartholomew in Constantinople or Patriarch Kirill of Russia. (Jugoslavija, 15 January 2020 17:06)
Apostasy = not being in communion with the guy with the golden headgear in Moscow? That would be news to Jesus!
(Make Serbia Great, 15 January 2020 21:15)
I bet Serbia still believes that as long as they have a couple of "relegiuos" buildings in Kosova or Montenegro that somehow they are connected to these independent countries. Serbia has no identity as a country and always tries to attach itself to other country's identities and cultures.
(Rightly, 15 January 2020 20:11)
The author provides a preposterous comparison between the Jews claiming stolen property and the confiscation of Serbian Orthodox Church property in Montenegro. Even the Ottoman Empire and Communists in the former Yugoslavia did not go to the radical extreme measures to confiscate Serbian Orthodox Churches although many were shut down. These clowns in Montenegro who don't even know their own identity which is Serb and want to erase Christianity from Montenegro, parts are known as Metohija, land of the Churches!
There is a reason that the apostasy churches in Montenegro, FYROM, Ukraine and other countries are not recognized by Patriarch Bartholomew in Constantinople or Patriarch Kirill of Russia.
On the subject of confiscation, many of the so called democrats current government headed by SPS,SNS are former Communists who's families confiscated property throughout the former Yugoslavia without compensation. When are those families going to see justice? It is not just in Serbia, but all the former Yugoslav republics where the illegal confiscation of property of Tito and his partisan murderous forces plundered Yugoslavia or what was left of it.
(Jugoslavija, 15 January 2020 17:06)
Why do people like you who has very little education topped with even less sense bother to post?
This would have to be one of the most ludicrous statements ever posted. For your information NO ONE is stopping the "Montenegrins" from starting their own church or building a hundred if they so choose but they cant take away something that does not belong to them.
(sj, 15 January 2020 14:23)
If you could somehow stop these clowns from using words such as superior, best, world, rule of law, democracy and freedom they would be utterly powerless to speak. Perhpas Janusz could also arrange for Catholic Church property to be "recorded" throughout his country of origin and then we can see how that's taken.
(sj, 15 January 2020 12:08)
1000 Percent correct. Great article. My questions to Serbian Radicals are? What will you do when your brother says to you I am moving on my own, would you kill him. Montenegro wants to be independent and free. What is the problem with you people? Second is the people that make the church not the church. if no one goes to the church, then it is a museum, not a church.
(Ari, 15 January 2020 11:35)
And even more hilarious, some Radical Elements in Radical-Serbia continue to think that somehow
The Republic Of Kosova might somehow still belong to them as well? The Nerve of these Fanatical’s still within Serbian institutions!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 14 January 2020 20:12)
when will these alleged "experts" and "analysts" learn that what they do is not going to last for long...?
are people like this bugajski or whatever his name, are they really so ignorant to believe that anything they want to impose will be reversed?
Montenegro is a serbian state. just as the Republika Srpska is a serbian state.
Bugajski should better take care of his very own homeland, since there´s serious doubt that the US will survive the collapse of the dollar as the leading world trade currency.
So, there´s nothing for foreigners to gain here...
(Jovan, 14 January 2020 19:30)
because majority are serbs ,we montenegrins are serbs you american, just because you have a criminal as the president of montenegro which he will fall soon...
i think usa should return texas. california, new mexico and other mexican lanns back to mexico and aboriginal lands back to the aboriginals that's their lands not yours ,your lands are in western europe not usa...same with alaska that is russian lands that will be back to russia..
(montenegrin -serb, 14 January 2020 19:05)
So this is the guy driving this genocide. Why is it always a pole? Montenegro has become a servant of nato. Sad. I’m sure if they’re good boys, Djukanovic and his henchmen will be left alone to conduct their “business”
(Stan, 14 January 2020 18:57)
If you could somehow stop these clowns from using words such as superior, best, world, rule of law, democracy and freedom they would be utterly powerless to speak. Perhpas Janusz could also arrange for Catholic Church property to be "recorded" throughout his country of origin and then we can see how that's taken.
(sj, 15 January 2020 12:08)
I am a Serb with Montenegro heritage my entire family from mothers and fathers side date back to the 1400's from Montenegro. As long as I know and have learned, we are all Serbian. This is the politics of the Albanians and CIA that have caused everything from the death of Yugoslavia to now the death of Montenegro.
(Danny, 16 January 2020 18:54)
Why do people like you who has very little education topped with even less sense bother to post?
This would have to be one of the most ludicrous statements ever posted. For your information NO ONE is stopping the "Montenegrins" from starting their own church or building a hundred if they so choose but they cant take away something that does not belong to them.
(sj, 15 January 2020 14:23)
What makes you think that you serbs own a church , the religion came from Bible not from north pole where you guys unleashed yourselves toward balkans!
(leka, 16 January 2020 08:25)
Well because there are records go back centuries that show who built and paid for these churches and it clearly states it was the Serbs, that’s why.
Where we you educated? In a barn?
(sj, 17 January 2020 12:48)
because majority are serbs ,we montenegrins are serbs you american, just because you have a criminal as the president of montenegro which he will fall soon...
i think usa should return texas. california, new mexico and other mexican lanns back to mexico and aboriginal lands back to the aboriginals that's their lands not yours ,your lands are in western europe not usa...same with alaska that is russian lands that will be back to russia..
(montenegrin -serb, 14 January 2020 19:05)
What makes you think that you serbs own a church , the religion came from Bible not from north pole where you guys unleashed yourselves toward balkans!
(leka, 16 January 2020 08:25
===…==
If we have built it, we own it.
Go tell the Pope that all those Roman catholic churches and cathedrals belong to whichever country they are in.
Let's see how that flies. I wonder if even Trump could sell a Catholic cathedral. If he can't then the government doesn't own it. The Catholic church owns it and they are the only ones who can do whatever they want with it. Do you get the gist now?
(Peggy, 16 January 2020 23:34)
when will these alleged "experts" and "analysts" learn that what they do is not going to last for long...?
are people like this bugajski or whatever his name, are they really so ignorant to believe that anything they want to impose will be reversed?
Montenegro is a serbian state. just as the Republika Srpska is a serbian state.
Bugajski should better take care of his very own homeland, since there´s serious doubt that the US will survive the collapse of the dollar as the leading world trade currency.
So, there´s nothing for foreigners to gain here...
(Jovan, 14 January 2020 19:30)
1000 Percent correct. Great article. My questions to Serbian Radicals are? What will you do when your brother says to you I am moving on my own, would you kill him. Montenegro wants to be independent and free. What is the problem with you people? Second is the people that make the church not the church. if no one goes to the church, then it is a museum, not a church.
(Ari, 15 January 2020 11:35)
And even more hilarious, some Radical Elements in Radical-Serbia continue to think that somehow
The Republic Of Kosova might somehow still belong to them as well? The Nerve of these Fanatical’s still within Serbian institutions!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 14 January 2020 20:12)
So this is the guy driving this genocide. Why is it always a pole? Montenegro has become a servant of nato. Sad. I’m sure if they’re good boys, Djukanovic and his henchmen will be left alone to conduct their “business”
(Stan, 14 January 2020 18:57)
The author provides a preposterous comparison between the Jews claiming stolen property and the confiscation of Serbian Orthodox Church property in Montenegro. Even the Ottoman Empire and Communists in the former Yugoslavia did not go to the radical extreme measures to confiscate Serbian Orthodox Churches although many were shut down. These clowns in Montenegro who don't even know their own identity which is Serb and want to erase Christianity from Montenegro, parts are known as Metohija, land of the Churches!
There is a reason that the apostasy churches in Montenegro, FYROM, Ukraine and other countries are not recognized by Patriarch Bartholomew in Constantinople or Patriarch Kirill of Russia.
On the subject of confiscation, many of the so called democrats current government headed by SPS,SNS are former Communists who's families confiscated property throughout the former Yugoslavia without compensation. When are those families going to see justice? It is not just in Serbia, but all the former Yugoslav republics where the illegal confiscation of property of Tito and his partisan murderous forces plundered Yugoslavia or what was left of it.
(Jugoslavija, 15 January 2020 17:06)
I bet Serbia still believes that as long as they have a couple of "relegiuos" buildings in Kosova or Montenegro that somehow they are connected to these independent countries. Serbia has no identity as a country and always tries to attach itself to other country's identities and cultures.
(Rightly, 15 January 2020 20:11)
Apostasy = not being in communion with the guy with the golden headgear in Moscow? That would be news to Jesus!
(Make Serbia Great, 15 January 2020 21:15)
Didn't know you had private discussions with Jesus? You might want to go to a mental ward as its more sociopathic tendencies than anything else.
(Jugoslavija, 16 January 2020 18:04)
This would have to be one of the most ludicrous statements ever posted. For your information NO ONE is stopping the "Montenegrins" from starting their own church or building a hundred if they so choose but they cant take away something that does not belong to them.
(sj, 15 January 2020 14:23)
What makes you think that you serbs own a church , the religion came from Bible not from north pole where you guys unleashed yourselves toward balkans!
(leka, 16 January 2020 08:25)
There is a reason that the apostasy churches in Montenegro, FYROM, Ukraine and other countries are not recognized by Patriarch Bartholomew in Constantinople or Patriarch Kirill of Russia. (Jugoslavija, 15 January 2020 17:06)
Apostasy = not being in communion with the guy with the golden headgear in Moscow? That would be news to Jesus!
(Make Serbia Great, 15 January 2020 21:15)
If it was built by China, it is China’s. Beware Serbia of your own logic ... you have an investing “friend” in 🇨🇳.
(vari teneqen, 19 January 2020 05:01)
I bet Serbia still believes that as long as they have a couple of "relegiuos" buildings in Kosova or Montenegro that somehow they are connected to these independent countries. Serbia has no identity as a country and always tries to attach itself to other country's identities and cultures.
(Rightly, 15 January 2020 20:11)
1000 Percent correct. Great article. My questions to Serbian Radicals are? What will you do when your brother says to you I am moving on my own, would you kill him. Montenegro wants to be independent and free. What is the problem with you people? Second is the people that make the church not the church. if no one goes to the church, then it is a museum, not a church.
(Ari, 15 January 2020 11:35)
And even more hilarious, some Radical Elements in Radical-Serbia continue to think that somehow
The Republic Of Kosova might somehow still belong to them as well? The Nerve of these Fanatical’s still within Serbian institutions!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 14 January 2020 20:12)
If you could somehow stop these clowns from using words such as superior, best, world, rule of law, democracy and freedom they would be utterly powerless to speak. Perhpas Janusz could also arrange for Catholic Church property to be "recorded" throughout his country of origin and then we can see how that's taken.
(sj, 15 January 2020 12:08)
This would have to be one of the most ludicrous statements ever posted. For your information NO ONE is stopping the "Montenegrins" from starting their own church or building a hundred if they so choose but they cant take away something that does not belong to them.
(sj, 15 January 2020 14:23)
What makes you think that you serbs own a church , the religion came from Bible not from north pole where you guys unleashed yourselves toward balkans!
(leka, 16 January 2020 08:25)
Why do people like you who has very little education topped with even less sense bother to post?
This would have to be one of the most ludicrous statements ever posted. For your information NO ONE is stopping the "Montenegrins" from starting their own church or building a hundred if they so choose but they cant take away something that does not belong to them.
(sj, 15 January 2020 14:23)
There is a reason that the apostasy churches in Montenegro, FYROM, Ukraine and other countries are not recognized by Patriarch Bartholomew in Constantinople or Patriarch Kirill of Russia. (Jugoslavija, 15 January 2020 17:06)
Apostasy = not being in communion with the guy with the golden headgear in Moscow? That would be news to Jesus!
(Make Serbia Great, 15 January 2020 21:15)
when will these alleged "experts" and "analysts" learn that what they do is not going to last for long...?
are people like this bugajski or whatever his name, are they really so ignorant to believe that anything they want to impose will be reversed?
Montenegro is a serbian state. just as the Republika Srpska is a serbian state.
Bugajski should better take care of his very own homeland, since there´s serious doubt that the US will survive the collapse of the dollar as the leading world trade currency.
So, there´s nothing for foreigners to gain here...
(Jovan, 14 January 2020 19:30)
What makes you think that you serbs own a church , the religion came from Bible not from north pole where you guys unleashed yourselves toward balkans!
(leka, 16 January 2020 08:25
===…==
If we have built it, we own it.
Go tell the Pope that all those Roman catholic churches and cathedrals belong to whichever country they are in.
Let's see how that flies. I wonder if even Trump could sell a Catholic cathedral. If he can't then the government doesn't own it. The Catholic church owns it and they are the only ones who can do whatever they want with it. Do you get the gist now?
(Peggy, 16 January 2020 23:34)
If it was built by China, it is China’s. Beware Serbia of your own logic ... you have an investing “friend” in 🇨🇳.
(vari teneqen, 19 January 2020 05:01)
I am a Serb with Montenegro heritage my entire family from mothers and fathers side date back to the 1400's from Montenegro. As long as I know and have learned, we are all Serbian. This is the politics of the Albanians and CIA that have caused everything from the death of Yugoslavia to now the death of Montenegro.
(Danny, 16 January 2020 18:54)
What makes you think that you serbs own a church , the religion came from Bible not from north pole where you guys unleashed yourselves toward balkans!
(leka, 16 January 2020 08:25)
Well because there are records go back centuries that show who built and paid for these churches and it clearly states it was the Serbs, that’s why.
Where we you educated? In a barn?
(sj, 17 January 2020 12:48)
because majority are serbs ,we montenegrins are serbs you american, just because you have a criminal as the president of montenegro which he will fall soon...
i think usa should return texas. california, new mexico and other mexican lanns back to mexico and aboriginal lands back to the aboriginals that's their lands not yours ,your lands are in western europe not usa...same with alaska that is russian lands that will be back to russia..
(montenegrin -serb, 14 January 2020 19:05)
So this is the guy driving this genocide. Why is it always a pole? Montenegro has become a servant of nato. Sad. I’m sure if they’re good boys, Djukanovic and his henchmen will be left alone to conduct their “business”
(Stan, 14 January 2020 18:57)
The author provides a preposterous comparison between the Jews claiming stolen property and the confiscation of Serbian Orthodox Church property in Montenegro. Even the Ottoman Empire and Communists in the former Yugoslavia did not go to the radical extreme measures to confiscate Serbian Orthodox Churches although many were shut down. These clowns in Montenegro who don't even know their own identity which is Serb and want to erase Christianity from Montenegro, parts are known as Metohija, land of the Churches!
There is a reason that the apostasy churches in Montenegro, FYROM, Ukraine and other countries are not recognized by Patriarch Bartholomew in Constantinople or Patriarch Kirill of Russia.
On the subject of confiscation, many of the so called democrats current government headed by SPS,SNS are former Communists who's families confiscated property throughout the former Yugoslavia without compensation. When are those families going to see justice? It is not just in Serbia, but all the former Yugoslav republics where the illegal confiscation of property of Tito and his partisan murderous forces plundered Yugoslavia or what was left of it.
(Jugoslavija, 15 January 2020 17:06)
Apostasy = not being in communion with the guy with the golden headgear in Moscow? That would be news to Jesus!
(Make Serbia Great, 15 January 2020 21:15)
Didn't know you had private discussions with Jesus? You might want to go to a mental ward as its more sociopathic tendencies than anything else.
(Jugoslavija, 16 January 2020 18:04)