Foreign Affairs: It's over, the United States experienced defeat
China has become a central force in global politics, and as U.S. Foreign Affairs reports, it has surpassed the United States in size of its diplomatic network
Source: Tanjug
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And BTW: please count the number of mass shootings in above four countries, combined. I mean, during the last 10 years, from Poznan to Vladivostok.
(Ataman, 5 December 2019 10:59)
The number of road fatalities in Russia last year was greater than 18,000, right?
If you consider a mass shooting where three or more persons are shot in the same event, then it appears that 387 were killed in the United States last year. That's out of a population of 327,200,000 people. Although some people try to make it sound like Americans are almost in danger of extinction, it is mostly television hype. Sputnik is a professional at exaggeration.
(, 5 December 2019 22:09) -
Make Serbia Great.....I have no idea what you are spewing out, and its clear that you dont either.
Just a point to pick up on.... yes everyone tries to look after their elders, if at all possible. But when an elderly person has so many issues and cant walk, go to the toilet and needs 24 hr help what do you propose??
And if they need an operarion, have cancer, a heart condition, etc, your answer is pay for treatment yourself..??? Because if a National Health Service helps you then you are a socialist? Is that what you are saying? Dont you know that everyone working in the UK pays tax and some of that tax goes on the NHS. So we the people pay for it. And we the people want it that way. And we think it aint fair that a person of modest earnings cant see a doctor but a wealthy man has the best, simply because he has the funds. I'm glad we are socialists here in England.....
Just a final question..... what is wrong with you...????
(, 5 December 2019 17:02) -
Make Serbia Great...... to conclude I will say again your comments and excuses are classic Albanian/US #$^^@#. Perhaps you need to pull your head out of the American #^$ and look around you. You need to see whats really going on. And if you still want everyone to believe that you are Serbian..... hahahaha....LOL.
NB: Tell us again how looking after your sick and elderly is socialism.....hahahahaha.....
(View from the uk, 4 December 2019 18:19)
Your post reflects your level of maturity.
What my post has to do with Albanians is completely beyond me. Again, people like you and sj and Peggy have this odd way of dividing the world, as though Albanians and Serbs are opposite sides of the coin. The reality is that people are still people all the way around the world. Solomon wrote about this in Ecclesiasties.
Being a long-term resident of Serbia, I see, touch, feel, and hear. How is it going from the UK?
I don't need anyone to believe that I am Serbian. If you have a problem with that, you need to take it up with the government. They're the ones who issue my passport.
I, and my religious tradition, have a long history of taking care of our elders. That is not socialism; that is taking care of those in need, especially of our own family. Socialism is when the state (staffed mostly by non-Christian persons) becomes the provider and caretaker. A deplorable situation. But you don't seem to understand the ways or teachings of Jesus Christ, so you wouldn't understand.
(, 5 December 2019 11:55) -
"Muslims; The US has destroyed so many muslim nations, turned them upside down and helped themselves to their natural resources."
Problem with your logic is that they were already upside down before the US military arrived. That spoils your entire argument. You are very one-sided, not looking at the full reality. Please point to a single country where the US government is stealing resources. You've been reading too much one-sided Sputnik!
"Your point about why people dont emigrate to China & Russia was answered by me. But you ignore the fact they dont go to Japan...!!"
The problem with your logic is that westerners don't need another well-to-do place to live; they've already got it.
"You daft point about Moscow and hitching horses is about what??"
When I would reach a village on the other side of Negotin, I would be as close to Moscow as an average Chinese person is to a western lifestyle. Its sad I had to spell it out for you.
"As for TV phenomena as a reason for mass shootings in America ...LOL. The whole world watches US films and series but dont suffer the safe fate."(View from the uk, 4 December 2019 17:55)
My point was that news agencies magnify the events. Only a very tiny number of citizens die in mass shootings. But because of your hatred for the United States, you write as though Americans live in fear. You are completely out of touch with reality.
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But how is it that sj and Peggy ended up in the far away destination known as Australia? It isn't exactly bordering Serbia...
(Make Serbia Great, 4 December 2019 11:22)
Because not everyone has a hard-currency-convertible profession.
With such profession you really do not care less: are you in Serbia, US of A, Russia or China.
You rather start to count other things. For instance that the Chinese, Korean or Japanese culture is very far from our. Than that Chinese do not have immigrant visas (SURPRISE!!!) - so if you consider to live in Mainland China or Taiwan you have a major immigration challenge.
Than, if you happen to have chances to get a citizenship of Singapore / M'Land China / Taiwan / Japan - just FYI: you will automatically lose it if it turns out, you may have an other citizenship!
Imagine children of Singaporean citizens born in Canada or USA. The life is a hell on earth for them (and I happen to know a case!).
So if sj or Peggy do not want to live in China (Taiwan / Singapore / Japan) but still think highly of these places - it's perfectly normal.
I can imagine myself to live in RU or HU (in the fact, I spend a lot of time in HU) - but I would not advise anyone doing the same. I would not advise anyone even to move to Latvia / Lithuania / Estonia unless they are 100% perfect (I am not saying FLUENT, I am saying PERFECT) in Russian. These are quite OK places tough and given the opportunity I would move to EE / LV / LT in nu minutes.
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Mass shootings are a TV phenomena. Lots of hype. Do you know how many people died in traffic accidents in Russia last year?
(Make Serbia Great, 4 December 2019 11:20)
SJ - ever driven in RU? Don't think so. I can tell about the European part of the country, last time I spent there on four wheels was this Summer. I felt safer than in the U.S. or Germany simply because in 2019 there are less chances to "meet" a drunk driver in Ukraine / Russia / Belarus than in Germany or the U.S.
This is due the law enforcement, peer pressure ("driving and drinking is very uncool") and the sometimes draconian fines. The later are rarely applied because simply there is no reason to do that. As far as UA / BY / RU the progress in last 10 years is huge.
In my 10+ years in the area I did see only one drunk driver, that was in Ukraine. All this is done quite ruthlessly - including Poland which is in EU. But after all, it's not obligatory to drive a car in Russia / Ukraine / Belarus / Poland. You do, than you know what could be the consequences.
And BTW: please count the number of mass shootings in above four countries, combined. I mean, during the last 10 years, from Poznan to Vladivostok.
(, 5 December 2019 10:59) -
Mass shootings are a TV phenomena. Lots of hype. Do you know how many people died in traffic accidents in Russia last year?
(Make Serbia Great, 4 December 2019 11:20)
SJ - ever driven in RU? Don't think so. I can tell about the European part of the country, last time I spent there on four wheels was this Summer. I felt safer than in the U.S. or Germany simply because in 2019 there are less chances to "meet" a drunk driver in Ukraine / Russia / Belarus than in Germany or the U.S.
This is due the law enforcement, peer pressure ("driving and drinking is very uncool") and the sometimes draconian fines. The later are rarely applied because simply there is no reason to do that. As far as UA / BY / RU the progress in last 10 years is huge.
In my 10+ years in the area I did see only one drunk driver, that was in Ukraine. All this is done quite ruthlessly - including Poland which is in EU. But after all, it's not obligatory to drive a car in Russia / Ukraine / Belarus / Poland. You do, than you know what could be the consequences.
And BTW: please count the number of mass shootings in above four countries, combined. I mean, during the last 10 years, from Poznan to Vladivostok.
(, 5 December 2019 10:59) -
Make Serbia Great...... to conclude I will say again your comments and excuses are classic Albanian/US bullsh*t. Perhaps you need to pull your head out of the American ass and look around you. You need to see whats really going on. Your comments are so one sided, naive and childish that its truly laughable. Please stop making a fool of yourself.
And if you still want everyone to believe that you are Serbian..... hahahaha....LOL.
NB: Tell us again how looking after your sick and elderly is socialism.....hahahahaha.....
(, 4 December 2019 18:19) -
Make Serbia Great....where do I start? You points are childish, naive & one sided.
Muslims; The US has destroyed so many muslim nations, turned them upside down and helped themselves to their natural resources. And plantex bases for geopolitical reasons. Tell us how many muslim nations celebrate 4th of July? Stupid statement from you.
Your point about why people dont emigrate to China & Russia was answered by me. But you ignore the fact they dont go to Japan...!!
You daft point about Moscow and hitching horses is about what??
The point is both Russia and China are on the rise. FACT. Hundreds of thousands of Americans dobt have a home, never mind horses...
And you must be joking about social peoblems in America. Really??
By far the most stupid comment is about heath care. I am glad I live in a socialist state, as does most of Europe. But I suspect you picked up that "socialism" line from the US elite and BS media. You truly are simple.
As for TV phenomena as a reason for mass shootings in America ...LOL. The whole world watches US films and series but dont suffer the safe fate.
How old are you..??
(, 4 December 2019 17:55) -
(Make Serbia Great, 3 December 2019 19:46)
“The citizens are becoming increasingly lazy, less family-centered……creeping agnosticism and atheism”
This is utter nonsense. The problem is wages for the average person. At $7.50 to $12.50 an hour is called WORKING POOR wages – that’s the problem. They can’t survive on such low pay. Even by US standards 102 million people are either on or below the poverty line. Poverty is defined by the US Federal government as a family of 4 earning $25,100 or less annually.
48% of working Americans earn $32,000 per year.
78% of all fulltime working Americans live from pay day to pay day. This is an increase from 75% in 2018.
That is the problem not agnosticism, atheism or laziness.
Now the “Chinese government is tracking their citizens to control them like robots”. Well are you aware of the Patriot Act or any of the other security legislation? They can take you and keep you locked up for ever with no legal redress even though you have done nothing.
Have you ever been to China to see these things?
Probably not just another western ignoramus looking at US TV and believing everything they tell them.
For your information the Chinese invasion has begun. Spain, France, Italy, Germany Belgium etc, etc. They are all tourists and that means they have money to spend.
US tourist is a rare site anywhere. The last time I saw groups of US tourist was in Ireland in 2017. Americans no longer travel because they don’t have the money
(, 4 December 2019 11:59) -
"As for China, most of the above problems do not exist. They have other issues. You seem to be very worried for "muslims" in China. But what about the muslims in the middle east and Africa? Those have been mistreated by America for decades (Iran, Iraq, Libya, Palestine, Egypt, etc)."
I can't recall any Muslims being mistreated anywhere by the United States. And, if there are any, it certainly wouldn't be because they are Muslim.
"Your point about wanting to go live in China is silly. Its a far away country, culturaly very different, language very hard, etc. Thats a very cheap shot. For example Japan is a top country but I dont know anyone who wants to go and live there. Lets be realistic. (View from the uk, 4 December 2019 10:10)
But how is it that sj and Peggy ended up in the far away destination known as Australia? It isn't exactly bordering Serbia...
(, 4 December 2019 11:22) -
"Make Serbia Great, you bring up a lot of points, some good and some naive.
Of course US standards are higher in most aspects. But the gap is closing."
If I would hitch up my horses and drive to Moscow, when I reach a village outside Negotin, I too could say that the gap is closing...
"The US has huge social problems,"
Certainly not any more than anywhere else. After all, people are the same all around the world.
"homeless people is on the rise,"
Still a tiny fraction of the population. There are homeless people everywhere in the world.
"drugs are a huge problem,"
They are. Only in a completely regulated society are they not a problem. But you want freedom, don't you?
"the lack of a national health service,"
Totally unnecessary. No socialism for me, thank you very much. The Serbian health care system is in ruins. That's why I almost always go to a private clinic.
"student debts can be as much as $250k,"
Plain stupidity that so many folks get these useless degrees. In Serbia, education is nearly "free." But the money comes from somewhere else, and the result is that people have few to no government services and everything else connected with the government is in shambles.
"breakdown of moral standards, mass shootings, etc."
Mass shootings are a TV phenomena. Lots of hype. Do you know how many people died in traffic accidents in Russia last year?
"The list is endless."
Not exactly...
(, 4 December 2019 11:20) -
Make Serbia Great, you bring up a lot of points, some good and some naive.
Of course US standards are higher in most aspects. But the gap is closing. The US has huge social problems, homeless people is on the rise, drugs are a huge problem, the lack of a national health service, student debts can be as much as $250k, breakdown of moral standards, mass shootings, etc. The list is endless. And the country is over $23 trillion in debt.
As for China, most of the above problems do not exist. They have other issues. You seem to be very worried for "muslims" in China. But what about the muslims in the middle east and Africa? Those have been mistreated by America for decades (Iran, Iraq, Libya, Palestine, Egypt, etc).
Your point about wanting to go live in China is silly. Its a far away country, culturaly very different, language very hard, etc. Thats a very cheap shot. For example Japan is a top country but I dont know anyone who wants to go and live there. Lets be realistic.
(, 4 December 2019 10:10) -
(View from the uk, 2 December 2019 21:20)
There are certainly internal problems in the United States government. That is because of the problems among the people. The citizens are becoming increasingly lazy, less family-centered, and with lower moral characteristics because of creeping agnosticism and atheism. There is no doubt the US is on a downward trend, spiritually and economically.
China has made economic progress. However, the standard of living of the average citizen is nothing compared to US citizens. Not even comparable. Americans have a lot more stuff than Chinese. That's the primary point. And for all the ranting of Peggy and sj and Zhukov, none of them move to China, Russia, or any of these havens of freedom.
The Chinese government is tracking their citizens to control them like robots and corralling hundreds of thousands of Muslims into detention camps that look shockingly similar to Nazi concentration camps. And that is the rise of something good, and not just large?
(, 3 December 2019 19:46) -
(Skenderbeu 1444, 1 December 2019 06:32)
It would be too bad if this were true, ataman, I mean Skenderbeu...
(Make Serbia Great, 2 December 2019 13:23)
I understand what you want to say - but it's 100% incorrect.
Unlike your style vs. the style of "JS" we have nothing to do with each other.
(, 3 December 2019 14:25) -
It's a sad state indeed. Rakija is the stumbling stone of the multitudes in Serbia. I don't know about other Balkan states.
(Make Serbia Great, 2 December 2019 13:26)
The good wine is extremely expensive in Serbia, like most of the food in supermarkets.
And vodka is now quite expensive everywhere.
Not that I would miss it, my yearly consumption of hard liquor is about 100 gram at best. But why is the food so expensive I do not know.
The controls in Ukraine and Russia are very strong. It is quite common in restaurants that the waitress asks who is the driver and he will get the "okroshka" soup based on yoghurt, not on "kvas". Even that "kvas" has only traces of alcohol.
The situation in all three Baltic countries is far worse than in three Slavonic countries. This year I did not see a single drunk in UA-BY-RU, but in Estonia / Latvia / Lithuania things look very bad.
(, 3 December 2019 14:15) -
(Make Serbia Great, 2 December 2019 13:26)
You live in a village in “Serbia” but don’t know what goes around you in the adjoining regions and yet you know about Russia and Ukraine.
Try getting some updated information on life expectancy in Russia in 2019. You have read this drivel about over consumption of vodka which was true in the 1990s and early 2000 but since living conditions have improved the number of deaths dropped dramatically due to alcohol.
The only place you visit is called the village of BS which is on the outer suburbs of Chicago or Detroit. Try going to Russia and seeing for yourself. Is it as bad as this? [link]
(, 3 December 2019 10:16) -
(Make Serbia Great, 2 December 2019 13:26)
You live in a village in “Serbia” but don’t know what goes around you in the adjoining regions and yet you know about Russia and Ukraine.
The only place you visit is called the village of BS which is on the outer suburbs of Detroit. Try going to Russia and seeing for yourself. Is it as bad as this? [link]
(, 2 December 2019 23:14) -
Make Serbia Great....... I think the point others are trying to make is that China is on the rise compared to some western nations. China has made huge progress over the past 40/50 years with much hardship. But there is no denying that they are going forward. Of course they are testing out and reaching out to many parts of the world, and all this without an armed conflict. The Chinese have not fired a shot in anger with any country since the late 1970s. This is very much in contrast to the US who have been at constant war somewhere or other. China is investing all over the place without murdering world leaders.
As for poverty, well of course there is lot of it in China. But the numbers are reducing year on year. In the west its the opposite. Here in London alone, there are close to 200,000 homeless people (living in hostels or on the streets). This is shocking and probably a figure you didnt even know. So lets not be so hard on China and praise America, UK, etc. The tide really is turning.
(, 2 December 2019 21:20) -
Where is adrian_from_Bucharest when we need his expert economic analysis?
(Make Serbia Great, 29 November 2019 21:50)
Do not know, why. The fermented, gone-bad grape juice is far cheaper in France, Russia and Hungary than in Serbia. I understand, this is because the salaries in France, Hungary and Russia are far behind of Serbian salaries. I had the golden medal French (spoiled) grape juice (5 Euro / liter). Once the effect is over, I can talk to you. Until than... Спокойной ночи!
But until I wake up from the effects of a bottle of French wine, maybe you can tell me, why the prices in Serbian grocery stores are far more "advanced" than in Russia or France. Not sure about the salaries.
(Ataman, gone to sleep, 1 December 2019 19:03)
When I was visiting friends in Ukraine, I asked them why there are so many drunkards in their village. They answered, "because alcoholic beverages are cheaper than water!" When I was visiting a friend in St. Petersburg later that year, he pointed out (without asking) that it's practically cheaper to buy Russian vodka than bottled water. Go figure! Keeping the people in blindness. It's a sad state indeed. Rakija is the stumbling stone of the multitudes in Serbia. I don't know about other Balkan states.
(, 2 December 2019 13:26) -
Who remembers last post from Adrian from Bucharest? I remember! He wrote "today the West destroyed Romania!" and then disappeared like a true hero! It was the day Dragnea was arrested I think. Adrian move on! Life is too short to be taken too seriously! I hope our friend Adriuki is on vacation and is still renting his apartment in Romania.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 1 December 2019 06:32)
It would be too bad if this were true, ataman, I mean Skenderbeu...
(, 2 December 2019 13:23) -
Peggy,
If you mean what you say about how well China treats its people, even better than Australia treats its people, why haven’t you moved there.
(Drasko, 2 December 2019 08:39)
Same reason she has not moved to Germany, Switzerland Belgium or Denmark. Its people like you that are totally ignorant of what goes around them. There are over 2 million foreigners living and working in China today mate and there is a very large number from the US.
(, 2 December 2019 09:11) -
Peggy,
If you mean what you say about how well China treats its people, even better than Australia treats its people, why haven’t you moved there.
(Drasko, 2 December 2019 08:39
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Predictable.
That's all you people have when someone says the truth about western countries.
Facts are facts. Are you disputing any of it? If you are then please, let's hear what I said is wrong.
(, 2 December 2019 09:09) -
More accurately, your mind is.
(Make Serbia Great, 29 November 2019 21:48)
Yes, I know, but I am still far, far smarter than you. Your only another creature hiding behind Serbia. No guts to stand up on their own two feet and identify themselves, but hiding behind Make Serbia Great – pathetic.
Have some self-respect don’t crawl on all fours; stand up and be proud of who you are.
(, 2 December 2019 09:04) -
(Lenard, 29 November 2019 20:04)
Hello captain crackpot. If you had a single intelligent idea in your head it would be lonely LOL. Another one who is talking through its arse.
Have a look at this as it’s not just in California but throughout the US and its all due to high economic success there. I have seen this great economic success in April this year in Florida and New York.
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(, 2 December 2019 09:03) -
(Drasko, 29 November 2019 19:49)
The reasons behind diplomatic numbers means that Beijing is spreading its influence and that requires money which they have plenty. Consulates providing a service to their citizens in a foreign country is only a very small component of their function.
But try reading something more current since even the west has China as No.2 and Japan No.3. It will be the year 5400 before the US admits it’s no longer the No1 economy, but China has surpassed it as of middle of September 2014.
As far as people wanting to migrate to the US, they are captives of Hollywood propaganda since the 1930s, but today try and get a good paying job there.
Those monthly jobs they trumpet about, well the vast majority are mostly low paid work on $7.50 to $12.50 an hour and this has been the case since 2008.
Once people migrate to the US most don’t like to look stupid so they tell everyone back home how wonderful things are. There are plenty of Serbs in that category.
(, 2 December 2019 09:01) -
Peggy,
If you mean what you say about how well China treats its people, even better than Australia treats its people, why haven’t you moved there.
(, 2 December 2019 08:39) -
sj wake up [link] and smell the flower's as to you know what. 700 million Chinese live on 2 dollars a day. On a degraded environment water, air and land etc only getting worse. Latest survey 38% of Chinese would love to emigrate from China. The fake Chinese prosperity bubble will burst and take it down.
(Lenard, 29 November 2019 20:04)
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They can certainly spare a few people leaving the country but never forget, it's the country which is strong and the poor just isn't relevant in that.
Every country has it's poor and homeless and there is no shortage of that in the US.
Look at India. Many are poor there too but the country is a nuclear power and growing economic power. Nobody can argue with that.
As far as Chinese living in dirty conditions and their food not being the cleanest, well that's why they have bought everything they can in Australia.
We've lost our dairy industry to them and they are buying up farms left, right and center.
We, in Australia are importing from from China (dirty as it is) and exporting our quality products because they own the farms. They are looking after their people a lot better than our government is looking after us. They are taking our clean water and food for themselves.
Do some research instead of talk a whole heap of rubbish.
(, 1 December 2019 23:50) -
Where is adrian_from_Bucharest when we need his expert economic analysis?
(Make Serbia Great, 29 November 2019 21:50)
Do not know, why. The fermented, gone-bad grape juice is far cheaper in France, Russia and Hungary than in Serbia. I understand, this is because the salaries in France, Hungary and Russia are far behind of Serbian salaries. I had the golden medal French (spoiled) grape juice (5 Euro / liter). Once the effect is over, I can talk to you. Until than... Спокойной ночи!
But until I wake up from the effects of a bottle of French wine, maybe you can tell me, why the prices in Serbian grocery stores are far more "advanced" than in Russia or France. Not sure about the salaries.
(, 1 December 2019 19:03) -
Who remembers last post from Adrian from Bucharest? I remember! He wrote "today the West destroyed Romania!" and then disappeared like a true hero! It was the day Dragnea was arrested I think. Adrian move on! Life is too short to be taken too seriously! I hope our friend Adriuki is on vacation and is still renting his apartment in Romania.
(, 1 December 2019 06:32) -
The reason China has had to increase the number of its Diplomatic networks is that most of the young people living in China want to come to the U.S. I have many young cousins living in China, like other young Chinese, that are dying to come to America.
(, 30 November 2019 00:58) -
China has been groomed for the role.
(, 29 November 2019 23:11) -
The more relevant question is: Where are we? Who are our nearest competitors? What can we do to improve?
Where is adrian_from_Bucharest when we need his expert economic analysis?
(, 29 November 2019 21:50) -
The US is $#@ $&+#
(sj, 29 November 2019 12:03)
More accurately, your mind is.
(, 29 November 2019 21:48) -
Wake up people China is the No 1 World economy since September 2014. The US is rat s***.
(sj, 29 November 2019 12:03) sj wake up [link] and smell the flower's as to you know what. 700 million Chinese live on 2 dollars a day. On a degraded environment water, air and land etc only getting worse. Latest survey 38% of Chinese would love to emigrate from China. The fake Chinese prosperity bubble will burst and take it down.
(, 29 November 2019 20:04) -
sj,
You are confusing zhabi with Babi, 1st in diplomatic staff numbers is NOT equivalent to 1st in economy. In fact, China is 3rd in economy, behind 2nd place Japan and 1st place USA.
(, 29 November 2019 19:49) -
Wake up people China is the No 1 World economy since September 2014. The US is rat s***.
(, 29 November 2019 12:03)