Croatia's Globus magazine writes that Aleksandar Vucic has made "a strong, but equally intriguing and challenging move" when he nominated Ana Brnabic for PM.
Croatia's Globus magazine writes that Aleksandar Vucic has made "a strong, but equally intriguing and challenging move" when he nominated Ana Brnabic for PM.
Source: B92, Nedeljnik, Jutarnji List, Globus
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The magazine adds that Brnabic will also be the first openly gay person to hold that office - "which sounds like science fiction in a relatively conservative country like Serbia" - and, in addition, she has "partially Croatian roots" - but is not "Croatian in the full sense of the world, like Croatian media have been reporting these days."
Globus further writes that interlocutors in Belgrade, "even those who don't particularly like Vucic," thought his decision to pick Brnabic was "masterly."
The article then delves into Brnabic's origins, and quotes her "acquaintances and friends" who said that her "real homeland is after all Serbia, not Croatia," and adds that her ties to Croatia amount to one quarter of her roots, "speaking mathematically precisely."
Namely, Brnabic's paternal grandfather Anton was a Croatian from the island of Krk, who joined Partisans during the Second World War and went on to serve as an officer in the post-war Yugoslav People's Army (JNA).
Her paternal grandmother was born in Gorobilje near the town of Pozega, where the grandparents met. Brnabic's father Zoran was born in 1950 in Uzice, western Serbia, and went to high school in Valjevo, also in western Serbia, and then to university in Belgrade.
The family, the article continues, never lived in Croatia, but spent summer vacations on Krk - except during the war in the 1990s.
Belgrade-based magazine Nedeljnik on Thursday reported the same, citing Brbanic herself, and added that her mother is a Serb woman whose parents come from the town of Babusnica in the southeast of the country.
As for Brnabic's father Zoran, he "never declared himself on his ethnicity," Nedeljnik writes.
"A good friend" of Brnabic has been quoted as telling Globus:
"Ana is a Serb woman, her homeland is Serbia, and she always stresses that she is a great patriot, which is why she returned to the country after living abroad for six years."
According to the magazine, Vucic "decided to lead Serbia toward the West, and the strongest link on that road will be precisely Prime Minister Ana Brnabic, if elected in parliament."
"With Brnabic Vucic is buying time on his road, i.e., the road of Serbia toward the Wet, that is, toward international, Western integrations. But he won't be able to keep buying that time indefinitely - that can only last until a certain point in time when Serbia will have to say definitively where it really wants to go: toward the West or toward the Wast. Ana will sincerely steer the ship of Serbia toward the West," Globus writes, quoting "an interlocutor from Belgrade."
I don't know why you had to mention Albanians and Dalmatians here.
I'm Albanian and also partially Dalmatian. Stop trying to connect Serbs with older Balkanic ethnicities and then saying that Croats and Albanians have less than 100 years of history.
One thing is for sure: Dalmatians were far more inclined to have relations with Albanians than Serbs (source: my family). For us, it was much easier to understand them than any Slavic language (just as it's easy for us to understand Romanian if we try hard enough) and the same goes for them. However, all of them is irrelevant today since Dalmatians and Croatians today are basically same people.
(@royals, 28 June 2017 00:40)
I don't know why you had to mention Albanians and Dalmatians here.
I'm Albanian and also partially Dalmatian. Stop trying to connect Serbs with older Balkanic ethnicities and then saying that Croats and Albanians have less than 100 years of history.
One thing is for sure: Dalmatians were far more inclined to have relations with Albanians than Serbs (source: my family). For us, it was much easier to understand them than any Slavic language (just as it's easy for us to understand Romanian if we try hard enough) and the same goes for them. However, all of them is irrelevant today since Dalmatians and Croatians today are basically same people.
(@royals, 28 June 2017 00:40)
@chaosAD
You croats for some reason have to try and prove yourself as I sense you have a little bit of a inferior complex issue. You like your Albo bothers are only in existence for around 100 years and believe you have to have a point to prove. Funny thing is as a serb with Montenegrin ancestry some of my best friends are Croats (actually Dalmatian) as thats what they prefer to be known as who have no issues with people like me. I even have god children who are Dalmatian who come from beautiful families. You on the other hand have so much built up hate that you come on a Serbian website to tell us all how wonderful Croats are and how inferior and sh$tty Serbs are. If the Serbs are so bad why do you and your goose stepping mate Lenny continually feel the need to post on B92...? Can't imagine too many Serbs going on Croat websites doing the same but then again we don't have a problem with our identity and DNA.
(royals, 23 June 2017 23:42)
So rite DEDA CVETKO their is no Serbian aka Serbia. That territory people have 23% Haplogroups I which are Croatian jeans. That in Croatia reach high as [link] 90% +. The next highest in Serbia is Slavic R1a geans at 19% then Turk, Dacian, Albanian, Thracian hodgepodge of Haplo groups is Serbia etc.
(Lenard, 23 June 2017 02:38)
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My post was not about genetic purity or haplogroups. It was about how people from all across Europe - and the world - came to Serbia, fell in love with it, and decided to become Serbs. Without pressure, without coercion or extortion, and without forced conversions to our ancestral faith.
They are still coming. And still becoming Serbs.
Although "Serbness" can probably be defined as a possession of a specific set of chromosomes, it is NOT about genes. It is about a frame of mind, worldview, weltnanschaung, set of Serbian beliefs and archetypes. We have always been different, and we always will be. And we have every right under the sun to remain different.
(DEDA CVETKO, 23 June 2017 17:03)
I don't think Croats in Australia would allow a Serb or former Yugoslav like yourself to sit with them in the lounge room.
(Chaos AD, 23 June 2017 11:29) # Comment link
I have sat with many Croats and have had drinks and discussed politics and history. We would not sit with the likes of an illiterate idiot like you. Tesla lit up the world and yes he did make a contribution to the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovene, many of his scientific papers are at the Tesla Museum in Belgrade while other were stolen by both Russia and the United States.
(Jugoslavija, 23 June 2017 16:11)
I hate to burst your bubble but university history textbooks do not talk about Tesla being born in Croatia since Croatia did not exist then. They mention that Nikola Tesla was born into a family whose father was a Serbian Orthodox priest in the Austro Hungarian Empire in the region known then as the frontier or as we know it today, Lika. If Tesla was a Croat then the Roman Emperor Diocletian who built and lived in Split was the same.
You Croats love beating your chest about your imaginary greatness, but the primary language spoken in Dalmatia up until 1958 was ITALIAN. Bet Croat schools don’t mention that one either.
Wikipedia is the worst source of information since it can be changed easily.
To introduce electricity in Serbia in the 19 century required a very large sum of money which Serbia did not have. Why do you think some of the greatest minds migrated from Europe to the US? Because the money was there.
It was not Peggy that posted about Croat children not understanding HRTV but me. I would not sit a Croat lounge room if you paid me to, but Croats have a radio program and this was raised on that program.
Croats that arrived as refugees during the 1990s do not like associating with Croats who arrived in the 1970s or 1980s. They don’t go to Croatian clubs either. Because they see them as destroying a good life in Yugoslavia.
(sj, 23 June 2017 13:58)
People in the Balkans pride their leaders on bloodlines and not their skills on how to govern. Brnabic will always be known to Seselj and co. as the Croat leader who let the Serbian people down and to Croats she will be seen as a half breed mongrel who is better off in Serbia. On matters concerning Tesla he will always be remembered as the peasant Serb who was born on Croatian lands, even though it wasn't called Croatia at that time. If Tesla was such a great Serb why not introduce electricity to blackend Serbia at that time instead he went to a foreign country where he died a poor man. As for Peggy's stupid comment about Croats not being able to understand HTV from Australia is absolute bullshit. I don't think Croats in Australia would allow a Serb or former Yugoslav like yourself to sit with them in the lounge room.
(Chaos AD, 23 June 2017 11:29)
Oh, 'one quarter Croatian'. This sounds a bit like good old Nazi times, when Germans that were 1/4 jews, 1/8 jews and even 1/16 jews (down to grand-grand parents) weren't classified as 'real Aryans'.
(Comm. Parrisson, 23 June 2017 06:44)
According to Wikiquote, he said the following "As a son of this country [Croatia], I consider it my duty to help the City of Zagreb in every way, either through counsel or through action"
Judge for yourself!
(Dušan, 22 June 2017 19:41)
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How could he refer to Croatia when it wasn't a country then?
Wikipedia is not a reliable source anyway.
Croatians are desperately trying to claim him so I would need a more reliable source to be convinced.
One thing is for sure, he would never consider himself a Croatian. Do you think that's how his father (Orthodox priest) and his mother (daughter of an Orthodox priest) would have raised him?
Think about it for a minute.
(Peggy, 23 June 2017 04:19)
So rite DEDA CVETKO their is no Serbian aka Serbia. That territory people have 23% Haplogroups I which are Croatian jeans. That in Croatia reach high as [link] 90% +. The next highest in Serbia is Slavic R1a geans at 19% then Turk, Dacian, Albanian, Thracian hodgepodge of Haplo groups is Serbia etc.
(Lenard, 23 June 2017 02:38)
Dusan, Milan, Jovan are 100% Serbian names just like Franjo, Stipe and Mate are Croatian, so Dusan you may want to check your ancestry lineage as you may find a surprise. Croats only claim people as theirs when it suits, with Tesla being case in point.
(royals, 22 June 2017 23:57)
To Draguljub: If I were there I would march out of solidarity for human rights. Think of it as the Protestant Empire striking back!
(Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin), 22 June 2017 21:10)
I have read a lot about Tesla. He was very proud of his Serb heritage and he did love Lika and the places he grew up in and he would spend hours telling people about Serb history and recite Serb poetry.
(sj, 22 June 2017 10:58)
Tesla was not a nationalist and was also proud to be an American but aware of his background. Tesla was a mad scientist and that is what consumed him , he did at one point offer the Kingdom of Yugoslavia the building of a laser system which was impractical at that point in time of history. Mihailo Pupin on the other hand was very much a Serbian and Yugoslav nationalist and was very instrumental in developing the Corfu declaration and working closely with the US President Woodrow Wilson with the creation of Yugoslavia after WWI.
(Jugoslavija, 22 June 2017 19:51)
According to Wikiquote, he said the following "As a son of this country [Croatia], I consider it my duty to help the City of Zagreb in every way, either through counsel or through action"
So effing what? Tsar Dusan was 50% Bulgarian, 12% French. His son, Uros, was 75% Bulgarian, 6% French, only 19% Serbian. King Milan Obrenovic was, by all credible accounts, 100% Romanian, and his son Alexander - a product of the marriage with the Romanian princess - was even more Romanian (if this is even technically possible) than his dad. King Alexander I was 50% Montenegrin. His son, King Peter II, was 25% Montenegrin, 50% Romanian. Nikola Pasic was 100% Bulgarian. Josif Pančić was 100% Croatian. Ivo Andric was a self-admitted ethnic hybrid, although born a pure Croatian. Yito did not have a droplet of Serbian blood. Branislav Nusic was 0% Serbian and so was Pavle Jurisic-Sturm (he was an ethnic Sorb, but not a Serb).
And yet, they were all Serbs, and Serbian, our flesh and blood, our true patriots, sons, brothers and founding fathers, and more, and then quite some. Much more so, in fact, than the current generation of our "Serbian" leaders (who are Serbian in a name only, and leaders not even in a name) purporting to be thoroughbred Serbs and bigger and better Serbs than even Prince Lazar himself.
(DEDA CVETKO, 22 June 2017 18:30)
It doesn't hurt. Tesla, albeit a Serb, was a proud "Ličanin" who put Smiljan on the world map. Not even the most hardcore Croatian nationalist will ever question this.
(Dušan, 21 June 2017 20:33)
Then why did the "most hardcore Croatian nationalists" (read: Nazi Ustashe) murder all the Tesla's at Jasenovac? His only descendants live in Belgrade today, not Croatia for a reason. [link]
Also, Dušan is like a VERY Serbian name. You Ustashe really are a trip.
(Ari Gold, 22 June 2017 16:59)
The name Dušan is also quite common in northern Croatia and Slovenia.
(Dušan, 22 June 2017 10:20)
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Yes for Serbs.
There are some names Croats wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole and Dusan is one of them. Jovan is another.
Kind of like Sean and John in Northern Ireland. Some names are just on the nose.
(Peggy, 22 June 2017 15:39)
Well, according to some sources, he was a proud Croat of Serbian-Orthodox faith. I don't know if it's true, but it is not unthinkable.
(Dušan, 22 June 2017 10:32)
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What sources? Some sites where Croatians try to claim him as their own?
It is unthinkable. Do you really think he would call himself a Croat with family like he had? Really?
So please provide the sources for us all to judge.
(Peggy, 22 June 2017 15:35)
Does it really matter if she is gay or part Croatian or what ever. All that matters is that she does a good job for the Serbian people and Serbia.. That is it.
(Mike Canada, 22 June 2017 11:58)
Peggy even a Serb wrote the Croat national anthem “Ljepa Nasa”. Croats have no culture so they copy it from Serbs. The names Dusan Dragan etc are Serbian. Croats cannot accept that fact.
They speak Serbian and in the first few years after WW1 they adopted the Cyrillic alphabet because they did not have one of their own and since then have perverted the Serbian language into “Croatian” to the point that in Australia today children born of Croat parents cannot understand HRTV.
I have read a lot about Tesla. He was very proud of his Serb heritage and he did love Lika and the places he grew up in and he would spend hours telling people about Serb history and recite Serb poetry. He was born on the Austro Hungarian frontier when Croatia was not even an idea. If Tesla is a Croat then the Roman Emperor Diocletian is also a Croatian citizen.
Croats are sad people because they hunger for recognition and grab anyone.
(sj, 22 June 2017 10:58)
Interesting that you defend, and even admire, Bosniaks. I have never before met a Serb who has done that. Or is it just the old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend?"
Now I understand why Dragan Covic and Milorad Dodik are so good friends.
(Dušan, 21 June 2017 17:52)
I am only interested in Serbs, but I have to admit that the Bosniaks were worthy opponents unlike the Croat scumbags who targeted old men and women. Not only during Operation Storm where even the US refused to admit they had a hand in it after they saw what the Croats did, but also in central Bosnia where Croats locked Bosniaks in basements then set alight their houses.
Dodik is not a friend of Dragan Covic. Covic is a vehicle of convenience and nothing more. Croats have no backbone and in Bosnia beg Serbs to help them but Croats in Croatia are anti Serb. Work that Croat logic if you can.
Regardless give a few more years and no more Croats in Bosnia.
(sj, 22 June 2017 10:43)
Well, according to some sources, he was a proud Croat of Serbian-Orthodox faith. I don't know if it's true, but it is not unthinkable.
(Dušan, 22 June 2017 10:32)
I'm talking about the situation today. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule, but in general, it is the way I described it.
(Dušan, 22 June 2017 10:25)
Brnabic is a Serb 😝...... just like Tesla is a Croat.. bloodline is stronger than propaganda !
(Openly Gay, 21 June 2017 12:29)
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Tesla was a full blooded Serb. Father, Orthodox priest and mother a daughter of an Orthodox priest.
Brnabic, has mostly Serbian blood but a quarter of it is Croatian. Now how strong is that Croatian bit is anyone's guess.
How much influence Croatia had on her can't be known. What is needed is her Christening certificate to see if she is Orthodox or Catholic or not christened at all.
I have known people who are half of each and strongly identify as one side only.
Still she would have Croatian relatives who she would not want to disappoint. This could be a problem.
(Peggy, 22 June 2017 03:16)
It doesn't hurt. Tesla, albeit a Serb, was a proud "Ličanin" who put Smiljan on the world map. Not even the most hardcore Croatian nationalist will ever question this.
(Dušan, 21 June 2017 20:33)
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Lika wasn't a country for him to be proud of it that way.
Croatia didn't even exist so your point is no point at all.
Tell me, how did Tesla identify himself?
Did he think he was a Serb or a Croatian?
(Peggy, 22 June 2017 03:06)
We Serbian people know who you are and what your are !
Tell us what Gay parade you will be marching in, they say there will be two opposing gay event's in Beograd and which one will you be in so maybe we all see you on Serbian TV ???
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 22 June 2017 00:33)
It doesn't hurt. Tesla, albeit a Serb, was a proud "Ličanin" who put Smiljan on the world map. Not even the most hardcore Croatian nationalist will ever question this.
(Dušan, 21 June 2017 20:33)
Serbs and Croats are same people, maybe two tribes living near each other but sure are same.
(Bilbao, 21 June 2017 14:49)
Of course they are, the problem is the extreme right of Croatia deny it's Slavic roots. The idea of Yugoslavia was a Croatian Initiative led by Josip Strossmeyer contrary to what the media feeds the Yugoslav people. Slovenians are further apart and "Bosniaks" are split between Serbs and Croats where some were converted to Muslims.
(Jugoslavija, 21 June 2017 20:01)
Brnabic is a Serb 😝...... just like Tesla is a Croat.. bloodline is stronger than propaganda !
(Openly Gay, 21 June 2017 12:29)
LOL Tesla was born before Croatia had ever existed. Let's say for a second that Tesla is indeed ethnic Croat. It must hurt that the two greatest ethnic Croats in history (Nikola Tesla and Ivo Andric) were proud Serbs!
(Ari Gold, 21 June 2017 19:32)
Serbia is not conservative! If it was conservative radicals would be governing the country. Serbia is whatever it needs to be to get into eu! Now it is extremely liberal pro gay. No one can point to proof otherwise.
(Brian Niven, 21 June 2017 19:17)
Interesting that you defend, and even admire, Bosniaks. I have never before met a Serb who has done that. Or is it just the old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend?"
Now I understand why Dragan Covic and Milorad Dodik are so good friends.
(Dušan, 21 June 2017 17:52)
Serbs and Croats are same people, maybe two tribes living near each other but sure are same.
Take two kids 5 years old put them in a room they will see no difference in language or have any qualms about it.
Can you imagine if Croats and Serbs or all balkans put 20% of energy in working together what will they do. When they leave Balkans they do my friend she went to Germany to work as Dr and her roommates are Serbian and Croatians, they live together and watch eachotheres back.
Strange and all the energy waisted for what, LOST GENERATION.
(Bilbao, 21 June 2017 14:49)
Ask the Bosniaks what they think of Croats after you guys thought that you could win at their expense when they were at their weakest knifed them in the back. I have to admire the Bosniaks and even today I am sad how it turned out since they are worthy opponents but Croats, low life scumbags.
Before operation storm the Serbian/JNA withdrew and the only the elderly remained so brave Croat scumbags murdered old people. But that’s your nature and as I said even Ivo Andric abandoned Croats.
We have not finished with Croatia mate. No investment, in fact not even a can of Coke is being opened in Croatia. Last year 200 000 Croats left Croatia and about 3000 a month this year.
I can wear a Chetnik uniform in any veterans military parade, but try and put on an Ustashi uniform and see how far you get.
CURE to Croats= No investment but just closure of industry, last year 40,000 lost their jobs this year 30,000.
(sj, 21 June 2017 14:39)
"Pathetic is a word the Serbs are use too. Such strong and brave Chetniks who ran like rabbits during operation storm. Never again will the Serb cancer be spread in the heart of Croatia. Good bye and good riddence. We have our cure= NO SERBS !"
Loukas
Loukas, or should I say Azir or perhaps Avni? Go get a job!
(Hank the Tank, 21 June 2017 14:31)
Serbian people did not get enough of Josip Broz Tito now they desire more !
Josip Broz Tito set up Srbija for what it is today, as long as Serbian people are divided Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christianity will continue to die in the Balkans !
So good job Serbian people, continue on the path you are in, keep electing and supporting misfits and odd balls and keep turning in your true cival and military hero's to the Hauge, a wining combination for Srbija !!!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 21 June 2017 13:50)
Pathetic is a word the Serbs are use too. Such strong and brave Chetniks who ran like rabbits during operation storm. Never again will the Serb cancer be spread in the heart of Croatia. Good bye and good riddence. We have our cure= NO SERBS !
(Loukas, 21 June 2017 13:34)
Croats are pathetic. They dont have any real culture or traditions, they have copied everything from the Serbs and anyone of note with a smidgen of Croat connection they are out to grab them as their own. As I said before Pathetic people. No wonder Ivo Andric turned his back on them.
(sj, 21 June 2017 13:04)
Serbs and Croats are same people, maybe two tribes living near each other but sure are same.
Take two kids 5 years old put them in a room they will see no difference in language or have any qualms about it.
Can you imagine if Croats and Serbs or all balkans put 20% of energy in working together what will they do. When they leave Balkans they do my friend she went to Germany to work as Dr and her roommates are Serbian and Croatians, they live together and watch eachotheres back.
Strange and all the energy waisted for what, LOST GENERATION.
(Bilbao, 21 June 2017 14:49)
Croats are pathetic. They dont have any real culture or traditions, they have copied everything from the Serbs and anyone of note with a smidgen of Croat connection they are out to grab them as their own. As I said before Pathetic people. No wonder Ivo Andric turned his back on them.
(sj, 21 June 2017 13:04)
"Pathetic is a word the Serbs are use too. Such strong and brave Chetniks who ran like rabbits during operation storm. Never again will the Serb cancer be spread in the heart of Croatia. Good bye and good riddence. We have our cure= NO SERBS !"
Loukas
Loukas, or should I say Azir or perhaps Avni? Go get a job!
(Hank the Tank, 21 June 2017 14:31)
Ask the Bosniaks what they think of Croats after you guys thought that you could win at their expense when they were at their weakest knifed them in the back. I have to admire the Bosniaks and even today I am sad how it turned out since they are worthy opponents but Croats, low life scumbags.
Before operation storm the Serbian/JNA withdrew and the only the elderly remained so brave Croat scumbags murdered old people. But that’s your nature and as I said even Ivo Andric abandoned Croats.
We have not finished with Croatia mate. No investment, in fact not even a can of Coke is being opened in Croatia. Last year 200 000 Croats left Croatia and about 3000 a month this year.
I can wear a Chetnik uniform in any veterans military parade, but try and put on an Ustashi uniform and see how far you get.
CURE to Croats= No investment but just closure of industry, last year 40,000 lost their jobs this year 30,000.
(sj, 21 June 2017 14:39)
Does it really matter if she is gay or part Croatian or what ever. All that matters is that she does a good job for the Serbian people and Serbia.. That is it.
(Mike Canada, 22 June 2017 11:58)
Peggy even a Serb wrote the Croat national anthem “Ljepa Nasa”. Croats have no culture so they copy it from Serbs. The names Dusan Dragan etc are Serbian. Croats cannot accept that fact.
They speak Serbian and in the first few years after WW1 they adopted the Cyrillic alphabet because they did not have one of their own and since then have perverted the Serbian language into “Croatian” to the point that in Australia today children born of Croat parents cannot understand HRTV.
I have read a lot about Tesla. He was very proud of his Serb heritage and he did love Lika and the places he grew up in and he would spend hours telling people about Serb history and recite Serb poetry. He was born on the Austro Hungarian frontier when Croatia was not even an idea. If Tesla is a Croat then the Roman Emperor Diocletian is also a Croatian citizen.
Croats are sad people because they hunger for recognition and grab anyone.
(sj, 22 June 2017 10:58)
Brnabic is a Serb 😝...... just like Tesla is a Croat.. bloodline is stronger than propaganda !
(Openly Gay, 21 June 2017 12:29)
LOL Tesla was born before Croatia had ever existed. Let's say for a second that Tesla is indeed ethnic Croat. It must hurt that the two greatest ethnic Croats in history (Nikola Tesla and Ivo Andric) were proud Serbs!
(Ari Gold, 21 June 2017 19:32)
So rite DEDA CVETKO their is no Serbian aka Serbia. That territory people have 23% Haplogroups I which are Croatian jeans. That in Croatia reach high as [link] 90% +. The next highest in Serbia is Slavic R1a geans at 19% then Turk, Dacian, Albanian, Thracian hodgepodge of Haplo groups is Serbia etc.
(Lenard, 23 June 2017 02:38)
Serbs and Croats are same people, maybe two tribes living near each other but sure are same.
(Bilbao, 21 June 2017 14:49)
Of course they are, the problem is the extreme right of Croatia deny it's Slavic roots. The idea of Yugoslavia was a Croatian Initiative led by Josip Strossmeyer contrary to what the media feeds the Yugoslav people. Slovenians are further apart and "Bosniaks" are split between Serbs and Croats where some were converted to Muslims.
(Jugoslavija, 21 June 2017 20:01)
It doesn't hurt. Tesla, albeit a Serb, was a proud "Ličanin" who put Smiljan on the world map. Not even the most hardcore Croatian nationalist will ever question this.
(Dušan, 21 June 2017 20:33)
Then why did the "most hardcore Croatian nationalists" (read: Nazi Ustashe) murder all the Tesla's at Jasenovac? His only descendants live in Belgrade today, not Croatia for a reason. [link]
Also, Dušan is like a VERY Serbian name. You Ustashe really are a trip.
(Ari Gold, 22 June 2017 16:59)
People in the Balkans pride their leaders on bloodlines and not their skills on how to govern. Brnabic will always be known to Seselj and co. as the Croat leader who let the Serbian people down and to Croats she will be seen as a half breed mongrel who is better off in Serbia. On matters concerning Tesla he will always be remembered as the peasant Serb who was born on Croatian lands, even though it wasn't called Croatia at that time. If Tesla was such a great Serb why not introduce electricity to blackend Serbia at that time instead he went to a foreign country where he died a poor man. As for Peggy's stupid comment about Croats not being able to understand HTV from Australia is absolute bullshit. I don't think Croats in Australia would allow a Serb or former Yugoslav like yourself to sit with them in the lounge room.
(Chaos AD, 23 June 2017 11:29)
Pathetic is a word the Serbs are use too. Such strong and brave Chetniks who ran like rabbits during operation storm. Never again will the Serb cancer be spread in the heart of Croatia. Good bye and good riddence. We have our cure= NO SERBS !
(Loukas, 21 June 2017 13:34)
Serbian people did not get enough of Josip Broz Tito now they desire more !
Josip Broz Tito set up Srbija for what it is today, as long as Serbian people are divided Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christianity will continue to die in the Balkans !
So good job Serbian people, continue on the path you are in, keep electing and supporting misfits and odd balls and keep turning in your true cival and military hero's to the Hauge, a wining combination for Srbija !!!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 21 June 2017 13:50)
The name Dušan is also quite common in northern Croatia and Slovenia.
(Dušan, 22 June 2017 10:20)
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Yes for Serbs.
There are some names Croats wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole and Dusan is one of them. Jovan is another.
Kind of like Sean and John in Northern Ireland. Some names are just on the nose.
(Peggy, 22 June 2017 15:39)
Dusan, Milan, Jovan are 100% Serbian names just like Franjo, Stipe and Mate are Croatian, so Dusan you may want to check your ancestry lineage as you may find a surprise. Croats only claim people as theirs when it suits, with Tesla being case in point.
(royals, 22 June 2017 23:57)
So effing what? Tsar Dusan was 50% Bulgarian, 12% French. His son, Uros, was 75% Bulgarian, 6% French, only 19% Serbian. King Milan Obrenovic was, by all credible accounts, 100% Romanian, and his son Alexander - a product of the marriage with the Romanian princess - was even more Romanian (if this is even technically possible) than his dad. King Alexander I was 50% Montenegrin. His son, King Peter II, was 25% Montenegrin, 50% Romanian. Nikola Pasic was 100% Bulgarian. Josif Pančić was 100% Croatian. Ivo Andric was a self-admitted ethnic hybrid, although born a pure Croatian. Yito did not have a droplet of Serbian blood. Branislav Nusic was 0% Serbian and so was Pavle Jurisic-Sturm (he was an ethnic Sorb, but not a Serb).
And yet, they were all Serbs, and Serbian, our flesh and blood, our true patriots, sons, brothers and founding fathers, and more, and then quite some. Much more so, in fact, than the current generation of our "Serbian" leaders (who are Serbian in a name only, and leaders not even in a name) purporting to be thoroughbred Serbs and bigger and better Serbs than even Prince Lazar himself.
(DEDA CVETKO, 22 June 2017 18:30)
According to Wikiquote, he said the following "As a son of this country [Croatia], I consider it my duty to help the City of Zagreb in every way, either through counsel or through action"
Judge for yourself!
(Dušan, 22 June 2017 19:41)
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How could he refer to Croatia when it wasn't a country then?
Wikipedia is not a reliable source anyway.
Croatians are desperately trying to claim him so I would need a more reliable source to be convinced.
One thing is for sure, he would never consider himself a Croatian. Do you think that's how his father (Orthodox priest) and his mother (daughter of an Orthodox priest) would have raised him?
Think about it for a minute.
(Peggy, 23 June 2017 04:19)
Serbia is not conservative! If it was conservative radicals would be governing the country. Serbia is whatever it needs to be to get into eu! Now it is extremely liberal pro gay. No one can point to proof otherwise.
(Brian Niven, 21 June 2017 19:17)
Well, according to some sources, he was a proud Croat of Serbian-Orthodox faith. I don't know if it's true, but it is not unthinkable.
(Dušan, 22 June 2017 10:32)
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What sources? Some sites where Croatians try to claim him as their own?
It is unthinkable. Do you really think he would call himself a Croat with family like he had? Really?
So please provide the sources for us all to judge.
(Peggy, 22 June 2017 15:35)
I hate to burst your bubble but university history textbooks do not talk about Tesla being born in Croatia since Croatia did not exist then. They mention that Nikola Tesla was born into a family whose father was a Serbian Orthodox priest in the Austro Hungarian Empire in the region known then as the frontier or as we know it today, Lika. If Tesla was a Croat then the Roman Emperor Diocletian who built and lived in Split was the same.
You Croats love beating your chest about your imaginary greatness, but the primary language spoken in Dalmatia up until 1958 was ITALIAN. Bet Croat schools don’t mention that one either.
Wikipedia is the worst source of information since it can be changed easily.
To introduce electricity in Serbia in the 19 century required a very large sum of money which Serbia did not have. Why do you think some of the greatest minds migrated from Europe to the US? Because the money was there.
It was not Peggy that posted about Croat children not understanding HRTV but me. I would not sit a Croat lounge room if you paid me to, but Croats have a radio program and this was raised on that program.
Croats that arrived as refugees during the 1990s do not like associating with Croats who arrived in the 1970s or 1980s. They don’t go to Croatian clubs either. Because they see them as destroying a good life in Yugoslavia.
(sj, 23 June 2017 13:58)
So rite DEDA CVETKO their is no Serbian aka Serbia. That territory people have 23% Haplogroups I which are Croatian jeans. That in Croatia reach high as [link] 90% +. The next highest in Serbia is Slavic R1a geans at 19% then Turk, Dacian, Albanian, Thracian hodgepodge of Haplo groups is Serbia etc.
(Lenard, 23 June 2017 02:38)
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My post was not about genetic purity or haplogroups. It was about how people from all across Europe - and the world - came to Serbia, fell in love with it, and decided to become Serbs. Without pressure, without coercion or extortion, and without forced conversions to our ancestral faith.
They are still coming. And still becoming Serbs.
Although "Serbness" can probably be defined as a possession of a specific set of chromosomes, it is NOT about genes. It is about a frame of mind, worldview, weltnanschaung, set of Serbian beliefs and archetypes. We have always been different, and we always will be. And we have every right under the sun to remain different.
(DEDA CVETKO, 23 June 2017 17:03)
It doesn't hurt. Tesla, albeit a Serb, was a proud "Ličanin" who put Smiljan on the world map. Not even the most hardcore Croatian nationalist will ever question this.
(Dušan, 21 June 2017 20:33)
Brnabic is a Serb 😝...... just like Tesla is a Croat.. bloodline is stronger than propaganda !
(Openly Gay, 21 June 2017 12:29)
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Tesla was a full blooded Serb. Father, Orthodox priest and mother a daughter of an Orthodox priest.
Brnabic, has mostly Serbian blood but a quarter of it is Croatian. Now how strong is that Croatian bit is anyone's guess.
How much influence Croatia had on her can't be known. What is needed is her Christening certificate to see if she is Orthodox or Catholic or not christened at all.
I have known people who are half of each and strongly identify as one side only.
Still she would have Croatian relatives who she would not want to disappoint. This could be a problem.
(Peggy, 22 June 2017 03:16)
Interesting that you defend, and even admire, Bosniaks. I have never before met a Serb who has done that. Or is it just the old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend?"
Now I understand why Dragan Covic and Milorad Dodik are so good friends.
(Dušan, 21 June 2017 17:52)
I am only interested in Serbs, but I have to admit that the Bosniaks were worthy opponents unlike the Croat scumbags who targeted old men and women. Not only during Operation Storm where even the US refused to admit they had a hand in it after they saw what the Croats did, but also in central Bosnia where Croats locked Bosniaks in basements then set alight their houses.
Dodik is not a friend of Dragan Covic. Covic is a vehicle of convenience and nothing more. Croats have no backbone and in Bosnia beg Serbs to help them but Croats in Croatia are anti Serb. Work that Croat logic if you can.
Regardless give a few more years and no more Croats in Bosnia.
(sj, 22 June 2017 10:43)
Interesting that you defend, and even admire, Bosniaks. I have never before met a Serb who has done that. Or is it just the old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend?"
Now I understand why Dragan Covic and Milorad Dodik are so good friends.
(Dušan, 21 June 2017 17:52)
I have read a lot about Tesla. He was very proud of his Serb heritage and he did love Lika and the places he grew up in and he would spend hours telling people about Serb history and recite Serb poetry.
(sj, 22 June 2017 10:58)
Tesla was not a nationalist and was also proud to be an American but aware of his background. Tesla was a mad scientist and that is what consumed him , he did at one point offer the Kingdom of Yugoslavia the building of a laser system which was impractical at that point in time of history. Mihailo Pupin on the other hand was very much a Serbian and Yugoslav nationalist and was very instrumental in developing the Corfu declaration and working closely with the US President Woodrow Wilson with the creation of Yugoslavia after WWI.
(Jugoslavija, 22 June 2017 19:51)
Oh, 'one quarter Croatian'. This sounds a bit like good old Nazi times, when Germans that were 1/4 jews, 1/8 jews and even 1/16 jews (down to grand-grand parents) weren't classified as 'real Aryans'.
(Comm. Parrisson, 23 June 2017 06:44)
We Serbian people know who you are and what your are !
Tell us what Gay parade you will be marching in, they say there will be two opposing gay event's in Beograd and which one will you be in so maybe we all see you on Serbian TV ???
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 22 June 2017 00:33)
It doesn't hurt. Tesla, albeit a Serb, was a proud "Ličanin" who put Smiljan on the world map. Not even the most hardcore Croatian nationalist will ever question this.
(Dušan, 21 June 2017 20:33)
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Lika wasn't a country for him to be proud of it that way.
Croatia didn't even exist so your point is no point at all.
Tell me, how did Tesla identify himself?
Did he think he was a Serb or a Croatian?
(Peggy, 22 June 2017 03:06)
According to Wikiquote, he said the following "As a son of this country [Croatia], I consider it my duty to help the City of Zagreb in every way, either through counsel or through action"
I don't think Croats in Australia would allow a Serb or former Yugoslav like yourself to sit with them in the lounge room.
(Chaos AD, 23 June 2017 11:29) # Comment link
I have sat with many Croats and have had drinks and discussed politics and history. We would not sit with the likes of an illiterate idiot like you. Tesla lit up the world and yes he did make a contribution to the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovene, many of his scientific papers are at the Tesla Museum in Belgrade while other were stolen by both Russia and the United States.
(Jugoslavija, 23 June 2017 16:11)
@chaosAD
You croats for some reason have to try and prove yourself as I sense you have a little bit of a inferior complex issue. You like your Albo bothers are only in existence for around 100 years and believe you have to have a point to prove. Funny thing is as a serb with Montenegrin ancestry some of my best friends are Croats (actually Dalmatian) as thats what they prefer to be known as who have no issues with people like me. I even have god children who are Dalmatian who come from beautiful families. You on the other hand have so much built up hate that you come on a Serbian website to tell us all how wonderful Croats are and how inferior and sh$tty Serbs are. If the Serbs are so bad why do you and your goose stepping mate Lenny continually feel the need to post on B92...? Can't imagine too many Serbs going on Croat websites doing the same but then again we don't have a problem with our identity and DNA.
(royals, 23 June 2017 23:42)
Well, according to some sources, he was a proud Croat of Serbian-Orthodox faith. I don't know if it's true, but it is not unthinkable.
(Dušan, 22 June 2017 10:32)
To Draguljub: If I were there I would march out of solidarity for human rights. Think of it as the Protestant Empire striking back!
(Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin), 22 June 2017 21:10)
I'm talking about the situation today. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule, but in general, it is the way I described it.
(Dušan, 22 June 2017 10:25)
I don't know why you had to mention Albanians and Dalmatians here.
I'm Albanian and also partially Dalmatian. Stop trying to connect Serbs with older Balkanic ethnicities and then saying that Croats and Albanians have less than 100 years of history.
One thing is for sure: Dalmatians were far more inclined to have relations with Albanians than Serbs (source: my family). For us, it was much easier to understand them than any Slavic language (just as it's easy for us to understand Romanian if we try hard enough) and the same goes for them. However, all of them is irrelevant today since Dalmatians and Croatians today are basically same people.
(@royals, 28 June 2017 00:40)
I don't know why you had to mention Albanians and Dalmatians here.
I'm Albanian and also partially Dalmatian. Stop trying to connect Serbs with older Balkanic ethnicities and then saying that Croats and Albanians have less than 100 years of history.
One thing is for sure: Dalmatians were far more inclined to have relations with Albanians than Serbs (source: my family). For us, it was much easier to understand them than any Slavic language (just as it's easy for us to understand Romanian if we try hard enough) and the same goes for them. However, all of them is irrelevant today since Dalmatians and Croatians today are basically same people.
(@royals, 28 June 2017 00:40)
Pathetic is a word the Serbs are use too. Such strong and brave Chetniks who ran like rabbits during operation storm. Never again will the Serb cancer be spread in the heart of Croatia. Good bye and good riddence. We have our cure= NO SERBS !
(Loukas, 21 June 2017 13:34)
Serbian people did not get enough of Josip Broz Tito now they desire more !
Josip Broz Tito set up Srbija for what it is today, as long as Serbian people are divided Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christianity will continue to die in the Balkans !
So good job Serbian people, continue on the path you are in, keep electing and supporting misfits and odd balls and keep turning in your true cival and military hero's to the Hauge, a wining combination for Srbija !!!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 21 June 2017 13:50)
I hate to burst your bubble but university history textbooks do not talk about Tesla being born in Croatia since Croatia did not exist then. They mention that Nikola Tesla was born into a family whose father was a Serbian Orthodox priest in the Austro Hungarian Empire in the region known then as the frontier or as we know it today, Lika. If Tesla was a Croat then the Roman Emperor Diocletian who built and lived in Split was the same.
You Croats love beating your chest about your imaginary greatness, but the primary language spoken in Dalmatia up until 1958 was ITALIAN. Bet Croat schools don’t mention that one either.
Wikipedia is the worst source of information since it can be changed easily.
To introduce electricity in Serbia in the 19 century required a very large sum of money which Serbia did not have. Why do you think some of the greatest minds migrated from Europe to the US? Because the money was there.
It was not Peggy that posted about Croat children not understanding HRTV but me. I would not sit a Croat lounge room if you paid me to, but Croats have a radio program and this was raised on that program.
Croats that arrived as refugees during the 1990s do not like associating with Croats who arrived in the 1970s or 1980s. They don’t go to Croatian clubs either. Because they see them as destroying a good life in Yugoslavia.
(sj, 23 June 2017 13:58)
People in the Balkans pride their leaders on bloodlines and not their skills on how to govern. Brnabic will always be known to Seselj and co. as the Croat leader who let the Serbian people down and to Croats she will be seen as a half breed mongrel who is better off in Serbia. On matters concerning Tesla he will always be remembered as the peasant Serb who was born on Croatian lands, even though it wasn't called Croatia at that time. If Tesla was such a great Serb why not introduce electricity to blackend Serbia at that time instead he went to a foreign country where he died a poor man. As for Peggy's stupid comment about Croats not being able to understand HTV from Australia is absolute bullshit. I don't think Croats in Australia would allow a Serb or former Yugoslav like yourself to sit with them in the lounge room.
(Chaos AD, 23 June 2017 11:29)
Croats are pathetic. They dont have any real culture or traditions, they have copied everything from the Serbs and anyone of note with a smidgen of Croat connection they are out to grab them as their own. As I said before Pathetic people. No wonder Ivo Andric turned his back on them.
(sj, 21 June 2017 13:04)
"Pathetic is a word the Serbs are use too. Such strong and brave Chetniks who ran like rabbits during operation storm. Never again will the Serb cancer be spread in the heart of Croatia. Good bye and good riddence. We have our cure= NO SERBS !"
Loukas
Loukas, or should I say Azir or perhaps Avni? Go get a job!
(Hank the Tank, 21 June 2017 14:31)
According to Wikiquote, he said the following "As a son of this country [Croatia], I consider it my duty to help the City of Zagreb in every way, either through counsel or through action"
Judge for yourself!
(Dušan, 22 June 2017 19:41)
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How could he refer to Croatia when it wasn't a country then?
Wikipedia is not a reliable source anyway.
Croatians are desperately trying to claim him so I would need a more reliable source to be convinced.
One thing is for sure, he would never consider himself a Croatian. Do you think that's how his father (Orthodox priest) and his mother (daughter of an Orthodox priest) would have raised him?
Think about it for a minute.
(Peggy, 23 June 2017 04:19)
@chaosAD
You croats for some reason have to try and prove yourself as I sense you have a little bit of a inferior complex issue. You like your Albo bothers are only in existence for around 100 years and believe you have to have a point to prove. Funny thing is as a serb with Montenegrin ancestry some of my best friends are Croats (actually Dalmatian) as thats what they prefer to be known as who have no issues with people like me. I even have god children who are Dalmatian who come from beautiful families. You on the other hand have so much built up hate that you come on a Serbian website to tell us all how wonderful Croats are and how inferior and sh$tty Serbs are. If the Serbs are so bad why do you and your goose stepping mate Lenny continually feel the need to post on B92...? Can't imagine too many Serbs going on Croat websites doing the same but then again we don't have a problem with our identity and DNA.
(royals, 23 June 2017 23:42)
Ask the Bosniaks what they think of Croats after you guys thought that you could win at their expense when they were at their weakest knifed them in the back. I have to admire the Bosniaks and even today I am sad how it turned out since they are worthy opponents but Croats, low life scumbags.
Before operation storm the Serbian/JNA withdrew and the only the elderly remained so brave Croat scumbags murdered old people. But that’s your nature and as I said even Ivo Andric abandoned Croats.
We have not finished with Croatia mate. No investment, in fact not even a can of Coke is being opened in Croatia. Last year 200 000 Croats left Croatia and about 3000 a month this year.
I can wear a Chetnik uniform in any veterans military parade, but try and put on an Ustashi uniform and see how far you get.
CURE to Croats= No investment but just closure of industry, last year 40,000 lost their jobs this year 30,000.
(sj, 21 June 2017 14:39)
So rite DEDA CVETKO their is no Serbian aka Serbia. That territory people have 23% Haplogroups I which are Croatian jeans. That in Croatia reach high as [link] 90% +. The next highest in Serbia is Slavic R1a geans at 19% then Turk, Dacian, Albanian, Thracian hodgepodge of Haplo groups is Serbia etc.
(Lenard, 23 June 2017 02:38)
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My post was not about genetic purity or haplogroups. It was about how people from all across Europe - and the world - came to Serbia, fell in love with it, and decided to become Serbs. Without pressure, without coercion or extortion, and without forced conversions to our ancestral faith.
They are still coming. And still becoming Serbs.
Although "Serbness" can probably be defined as a possession of a specific set of chromosomes, it is NOT about genes. It is about a frame of mind, worldview, weltnanschaung, set of Serbian beliefs and archetypes. We have always been different, and we always will be. And we have every right under the sun to remain different.
(DEDA CVETKO, 23 June 2017 17:03)
I don't think Croats in Australia would allow a Serb or former Yugoslav like yourself to sit with them in the lounge room.
(Chaos AD, 23 June 2017 11:29) # Comment link
I have sat with many Croats and have had drinks and discussed politics and history. We would not sit with the likes of an illiterate idiot like you. Tesla lit up the world and yes he did make a contribution to the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovene, many of his scientific papers are at the Tesla Museum in Belgrade while other were stolen by both Russia and the United States.
(Jugoslavija, 23 June 2017 16:11)
Well, according to some sources, he was a proud Croat of Serbian-Orthodox faith. I don't know if it's true, but it is not unthinkable.
(Dušan, 22 June 2017 10:32)
Peggy even a Serb wrote the Croat national anthem “Ljepa Nasa”. Croats have no culture so they copy it from Serbs. The names Dusan Dragan etc are Serbian. Croats cannot accept that fact.
They speak Serbian and in the first few years after WW1 they adopted the Cyrillic alphabet because they did not have one of their own and since then have perverted the Serbian language into “Croatian” to the point that in Australia today children born of Croat parents cannot understand HRTV.
I have read a lot about Tesla. He was very proud of his Serb heritage and he did love Lika and the places he grew up in and he would spend hours telling people about Serb history and recite Serb poetry. He was born on the Austro Hungarian frontier when Croatia was not even an idea. If Tesla is a Croat then the Roman Emperor Diocletian is also a Croatian citizen.
Croats are sad people because they hunger for recognition and grab anyone.
(sj, 22 June 2017 10:58)
Brnabic is a Serb 😝...... just like Tesla is a Croat.. bloodline is stronger than propaganda !
(Openly Gay, 21 June 2017 12:29)
LOL Tesla was born before Croatia had ever existed. Let's say for a second that Tesla is indeed ethnic Croat. It must hurt that the two greatest ethnic Croats in history (Nikola Tesla and Ivo Andric) were proud Serbs!
(Ari Gold, 21 June 2017 19:32)
So rite DEDA CVETKO their is no Serbian aka Serbia. That territory people have 23% Haplogroups I which are Croatian jeans. That in Croatia reach high as [link] 90% +. The next highest in Serbia is Slavic R1a geans at 19% then Turk, Dacian, Albanian, Thracian hodgepodge of Haplo groups is Serbia etc.
(Lenard, 23 June 2017 02:38)
Dusan, Milan, Jovan are 100% Serbian names just like Franjo, Stipe and Mate are Croatian, so Dusan you may want to check your ancestry lineage as you may find a surprise. Croats only claim people as theirs when it suits, with Tesla being case in point.
(royals, 22 June 2017 23:57)
We Serbian people know who you are and what your are !
Tell us what Gay parade you will be marching in, they say there will be two opposing gay event's in Beograd and which one will you be in so maybe we all see you on Serbian TV ???
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 22 June 2017 00:33)
Oh, 'one quarter Croatian'. This sounds a bit like good old Nazi times, when Germans that were 1/4 jews, 1/8 jews and even 1/16 jews (down to grand-grand parents) weren't classified as 'real Aryans'.
(Comm. Parrisson, 23 June 2017 06:44)
The name Dušan is also quite common in northern Croatia and Slovenia.
(Dušan, 22 June 2017 10:20)
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Yes for Serbs.
There are some names Croats wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole and Dusan is one of them. Jovan is another.
Kind of like Sean and John in Northern Ireland. Some names are just on the nose.
(Peggy, 22 June 2017 15:39)
It doesn't hurt. Tesla, albeit a Serb, was a proud "Ličanin" who put Smiljan on the world map. Not even the most hardcore Croatian nationalist will ever question this.
(Dušan, 21 June 2017 20:33)
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Lika wasn't a country for him to be proud of it that way.
Croatia didn't even exist so your point is no point at all.
Tell me, how did Tesla identify himself?
Did he think he was a Serb or a Croatian?
(Peggy, 22 June 2017 03:06)
Serbs and Croats are same people, maybe two tribes living near each other but sure are same.
(Bilbao, 21 June 2017 14:49)
Of course they are, the problem is the extreme right of Croatia deny it's Slavic roots. The idea of Yugoslavia was a Croatian Initiative led by Josip Strossmeyer contrary to what the media feeds the Yugoslav people. Slovenians are further apart and "Bosniaks" are split between Serbs and Croats where some were converted to Muslims.
(Jugoslavija, 21 June 2017 20:01)
I have read a lot about Tesla. He was very proud of his Serb heritage and he did love Lika and the places he grew up in and he would spend hours telling people about Serb history and recite Serb poetry.
(sj, 22 June 2017 10:58)
Tesla was not a nationalist and was also proud to be an American but aware of his background. Tesla was a mad scientist and that is what consumed him , he did at one point offer the Kingdom of Yugoslavia the building of a laser system which was impractical at that point in time of history. Mihailo Pupin on the other hand was very much a Serbian and Yugoslav nationalist and was very instrumental in developing the Corfu declaration and working closely with the US President Woodrow Wilson with the creation of Yugoslavia after WWI.
(Jugoslavija, 22 June 2017 19:51)
Interesting that you defend, and even admire, Bosniaks. I have never before met a Serb who has done that. Or is it just the old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend?"
Now I understand why Dragan Covic and Milorad Dodik are so good friends.
(Dušan, 21 June 2017 17:52)
It doesn't hurt. Tesla, albeit a Serb, was a proud "Ličanin" who put Smiljan on the world map. Not even the most hardcore Croatian nationalist will ever question this.
(Dušan, 21 June 2017 20:33)
Then why did the "most hardcore Croatian nationalists" (read: Nazi Ustashe) murder all the Tesla's at Jasenovac? His only descendants live in Belgrade today, not Croatia for a reason. [link]
Also, Dušan is like a VERY Serbian name. You Ustashe really are a trip.
(Ari Gold, 22 June 2017 16:59)
Serbia is not conservative! If it was conservative radicals would be governing the country. Serbia is whatever it needs to be to get into eu! Now it is extremely liberal pro gay. No one can point to proof otherwise.
(Brian Niven, 21 June 2017 19:17)
Well, according to some sources, he was a proud Croat of Serbian-Orthodox faith. I don't know if it's true, but it is not unthinkable.
(Dušan, 22 June 2017 10:32)
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What sources? Some sites where Croatians try to claim him as their own?
It is unthinkable. Do you really think he would call himself a Croat with family like he had? Really?
So please provide the sources for us all to judge.
(Peggy, 22 June 2017 15:35)
To Draguljub: If I were there I would march out of solidarity for human rights. Think of it as the Protestant Empire striking back!
(Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin), 22 June 2017 21:10)
According to Wikiquote, he said the following "As a son of this country [Croatia], I consider it my duty to help the City of Zagreb in every way, either through counsel or through action"
Does it really matter if she is gay or part Croatian or what ever. All that matters is that she does a good job for the Serbian people and Serbia.. That is it.
(Mike Canada, 22 June 2017 11:58)
Brnabic is a Serb 😝...... just like Tesla is a Croat.. bloodline is stronger than propaganda !
(Openly Gay, 21 June 2017 12:29)
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Tesla was a full blooded Serb. Father, Orthodox priest and mother a daughter of an Orthodox priest.
Brnabic, has mostly Serbian blood but a quarter of it is Croatian. Now how strong is that Croatian bit is anyone's guess.
How much influence Croatia had on her can't be known. What is needed is her Christening certificate to see if she is Orthodox or Catholic or not christened at all.
I have known people who are half of each and strongly identify as one side only.
Still she would have Croatian relatives who she would not want to disappoint. This could be a problem.
(Peggy, 22 June 2017 03:16)
I'm talking about the situation today. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule, but in general, it is the way I described it.
(Dušan, 22 June 2017 10:25)
Interesting that you defend, and even admire, Bosniaks. I have never before met a Serb who has done that. Or is it just the old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend?"
Now I understand why Dragan Covic and Milorad Dodik are so good friends.
(Dušan, 21 June 2017 17:52)
I am only interested in Serbs, but I have to admit that the Bosniaks were worthy opponents unlike the Croat scumbags who targeted old men and women. Not only during Operation Storm where even the US refused to admit they had a hand in it after they saw what the Croats did, but also in central Bosnia where Croats locked Bosniaks in basements then set alight their houses.
Dodik is not a friend of Dragan Covic. Covic is a vehicle of convenience and nothing more. Croats have no backbone and in Bosnia beg Serbs to help them but Croats in Croatia are anti Serb. Work that Croat logic if you can.
Regardless give a few more years and no more Croats in Bosnia.
(sj, 22 June 2017 10:43)
Serbs and Croats are same people, maybe two tribes living near each other but sure are same.
Take two kids 5 years old put them in a room they will see no difference in language or have any qualms about it.
Can you imagine if Croats and Serbs or all balkans put 20% of energy in working together what will they do. When they leave Balkans they do my friend she went to Germany to work as Dr and her roommates are Serbian and Croatians, they live together and watch eachotheres back.
Strange and all the energy waisted for what, LOST GENERATION.
(Bilbao, 21 June 2017 14:49)
So effing what? Tsar Dusan was 50% Bulgarian, 12% French. His son, Uros, was 75% Bulgarian, 6% French, only 19% Serbian. King Milan Obrenovic was, by all credible accounts, 100% Romanian, and his son Alexander - a product of the marriage with the Romanian princess - was even more Romanian (if this is even technically possible) than his dad. King Alexander I was 50% Montenegrin. His son, King Peter II, was 25% Montenegrin, 50% Romanian. Nikola Pasic was 100% Bulgarian. Josif Pančić was 100% Croatian. Ivo Andric was a self-admitted ethnic hybrid, although born a pure Croatian. Yito did not have a droplet of Serbian blood. Branislav Nusic was 0% Serbian and so was Pavle Jurisic-Sturm (he was an ethnic Sorb, but not a Serb).
And yet, they were all Serbs, and Serbian, our flesh and blood, our true patriots, sons, brothers and founding fathers, and more, and then quite some. Much more so, in fact, than the current generation of our "Serbian" leaders (who are Serbian in a name only, and leaders not even in a name) purporting to be thoroughbred Serbs and bigger and better Serbs than even Prince Lazar himself.
(DEDA CVETKO, 22 June 2017 18:30)
It doesn't hurt. Tesla, albeit a Serb, was a proud "Ličanin" who put Smiljan on the world map. Not even the most hardcore Croatian nationalist will ever question this.
(Dušan, 21 June 2017 20:33)
I don't know why you had to mention Albanians and Dalmatians here.
I'm Albanian and also partially Dalmatian. Stop trying to connect Serbs with older Balkanic ethnicities and then saying that Croats and Albanians have less than 100 years of history.
One thing is for sure: Dalmatians were far more inclined to have relations with Albanians than Serbs (source: my family). For us, it was much easier to understand them than any Slavic language (just as it's easy for us to understand Romanian if we try hard enough) and the same goes for them. However, all of them is irrelevant today since Dalmatians and Croatians today are basically same people.
(@royals, 28 June 2017 00:40)
I don't know why you had to mention Albanians and Dalmatians here.
I'm Albanian and also partially Dalmatian. Stop trying to connect Serbs with older Balkanic ethnicities and then saying that Croats and Albanians have less than 100 years of history.
One thing is for sure: Dalmatians were far more inclined to have relations with Albanians than Serbs (source: my family). For us, it was much easier to understand them than any Slavic language (just as it's easy for us to understand Romanian if we try hard enough) and the same goes for them. However, all of them is irrelevant today since Dalmatians and Croatians today are basically same people.
(@royals, 28 June 2017 00:40)
