NEW YORK -- If Russia grants asylum to Syria's Bashar al-Assad, he may settle in the town of Barvikha – the same town that is now a home to Slobodan Milošević’s family.
NEW YORK -- If Russia grants asylum to Syria's Bashar al-Assad, he may settle in the town of Barvikha – the same town that is now a home to Slobodan Milošević’s family.
Source: nytimes.com, Radio 021
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Slobodan Milošević’s brother Borislav Milošević said that family members who had settled in Barvikha had been getting on swimmingly since the Yugoslav conflicts faded from the news, NYT has reported.
Speaking about Marković’s nine years in exile, Borislav Milošević said that she had a wholly “ordinary” life and that she has friends over all the time. She lives a respectable, normal life.”
The New York Times writes that Marković has been compiling a book of her husband’s interviews and that her son is married to a Russian woman, with whom he has a daughter.
Diplomats in Russia, Assad’s most important ally, have denied they are considering granting him safe haven as a step toward resolution of the conflict.
“They could be trying to signal to Assad there is an offer, but the window of opportunity is not going to remain open for a long time,” said Mark N. Katz, a professor of government and politics at George Mason University in Virginia.
In Barvikha, home mostly to Russian nouveaux riches, every house hides behind a gigantic wall, and the lenses of closed-circuit television cameras stare blankly at passers-by, NYT points out.
According to the paper, “this improbable small town of villas and luxury boutiques, built around the sanitarium is home to half a dozen or so deposed leaders and members of their families”.
Kyrgyzstan’s toppled President Askar Akayev came to Barvikha after street protests known as the Tulip Revolution in 2005.
Moscow’s reputation as a welcoming city for deposed autocrats was reinforced in 2004, when the mayor at the time, Yuri M. Luzhkov, provided his private jet to Aslan Abashidze, the separatist leader of the Ajaria region of Georgia, in a timely gesture. Abashidze reportedly lives in Barvikha.
In 1998, the leader of the once Communist-leaning Kurdistan Workers Party, Abdullah Ocalan, fled from Syria to Moscow. But the Russians would not take him. He was put on a flight to Africa, where he was caught, writes NYT.
Russia loves Democratic Leaders, hence why all are welcome in Democratic Russia!
(Haitan, 30 December 2012 15:24)
So does the US. It’s given many a murderous regime leader sanctuary such as Marcos and his family of the Philippines; various members of the Saudi family live in the US. General Pinochet was given medical treatment in the US. There are plenty other – some are even African butchers.
Now are these democratic murders unlike the evil doers the Russians deal with?
(sj, 31 December 2012 12:56)
I strongly suggest that the New York Times change its name to the New York BS. The drivel these American journalists tend to write is incredible. They make it up as they go along.
Assad is going nowhere soon at all. The problem with the west is inability to deal with matters outside the UN. NATO attacked Serbia without any approval. NATO attacked Afghanistan and Iraq without any approval so what the problem now? What’s holding them back? Their superior weapons not up to it?
No it’s the United States of Piss and Wind – windbags at their best. They can’t do the job and then blame Russia for not playing their game – doesn’t the US have the most powerful army in the world????
The same joke of a newspaper keeps writing that the US will be back on top in a decade. They have been saying this since 2000, but they don’t mention which decade.
(sj, 31 December 2012 12:47)
Why should Bashar seek for a shelter ? Is he losing the battle – definitely no. The invaders control only desert parts of the Sunni regions while the cities and other important parts are controlled by the legal government and the Kurds keep him. Thus the US tactics for the time being is to demoralize the opponent and to destroy the country so that no matter who wins Assad or Al Qaeda they will depend on the Western aid. But Bashar don’t have to run. To say nothing that in Iran or Iraq he will be accepted as a national hero. Barvikha is 5 km away from where I live. If not the plugs at the rush hours it’s a very nice place to spend your days but Bashar do not need it. He has good chances to live in his beloved fatherland. So the discussion as well as the current article are aimed to demoralize the government forces. Another question is what will happen to the Alliwites called the Allawites to the Druz to the Christians to the grave of Hafez Assad ect in case he has to run. So Barvikha is not a solution. Especially for the Oriental mentality. And the West has no legal tools to change the situation in their favor while my country helped by China and Iran+Iraq still provide their firm support. That’s why Barvikha item as I believe has been raised.
(rote, 31 December 2012 08:53)
Milosevic was democratically elected. Not that I would have voted for a communist but besides the point, he was elected- not a dictator. Get your facts straight.
(Ari Gold, 30 December 2012 18:09)
I never said that Milosevic wasn't elected. I never said that he was a Dictator. I think you should get your fact straight.
(Haitian, 31 December 2012 01:27)
This is simple black propaganda by the NYT on behalf of the government. If the NYT so blatantly takes part in military psychological operations, then it follows that their journalists are military targets. NATO set the precedent long ago using the Press Pool system in 1991 (Iraq) and then executed journalists on RTB in 1999. You reap what you sow.
(He Who Pays The Piper..., 31 December 2012 00:32)
Assad is going nowhere,why should he just because the arrogant Empire demands it,he will stay to defend his Country from the same wild Dogs that were sent to the FRY to murder Serbs by that same arrogant Empire.
(Englishman, 30 December 2012 19:53)
Assad family was brought to power by CIA in 70's just like so many vile brutes in the region.
Saddam Hussein was even given golden keys of city of Detroit.
So, why don't you just take your garbage back?
(Sreten, 30 December 2012 19:16)
Because garbage gets discarded in landfill.Russia.
(Mark, 30 December 2012 19:32)
Assad family was brought to power by CIA in 70's just like so many vile brutes in the region.
Saddam Hussein was even given golden keys of city of Detroit.
So, why don't you just take your garbage back?
(Sreten, 30 December 2012 19:16)
Russia loves Democratic Leaders, hence why all are welcome in Democratic Russia!
(Haitan, 30 December 2012 15:24)
Milosevic was democratically elected. Not that I would have voted for a communist but besides the point, he was elected- not a dictator. Get your facts straight.
(Ari Gold, 30 December 2012 18:09)
Russia loves Democratic Leaders, hence why all are welcome in Democratic Russia!
(Haitan, 30 December 2012 15:24)
Milosevic was democratically elected. Not that I would have voted for a communist but besides the point, he was elected- not a dictator. Get your facts straight.
(Ari Gold, 30 December 2012 18:09)
Assad family was brought to power by CIA in 70's just like so many vile brutes in the region.
Saddam Hussein was even given golden keys of city of Detroit.
So, why don't you just take your garbage back?
(Sreten, 30 December 2012 19:16)
Assad is going nowhere,why should he just because the arrogant Empire demands it,he will stay to defend his Country from the same wild Dogs that were sent to the FRY to murder Serbs by that same arrogant Empire.
(Englishman, 30 December 2012 19:53)
Assad family was brought to power by CIA in 70's just like so many vile brutes in the region.
Saddam Hussein was even given golden keys of city of Detroit.
So, why don't you just take your garbage back?
(Sreten, 30 December 2012 19:16)
Because garbage gets discarded in landfill.Russia.
(Mark, 30 December 2012 19:32)
Milosevic was democratically elected. Not that I would have voted for a communist but besides the point, he was elected- not a dictator. Get your facts straight.
(Ari Gold, 30 December 2012 18:09)
I never said that Milosevic wasn't elected. I never said that he was a Dictator. I think you should get your fact straight.
(Haitian, 31 December 2012 01:27)
I strongly suggest that the New York Times change its name to the New York BS. The drivel these American journalists tend to write is incredible. They make it up as they go along.
Assad is going nowhere soon at all. The problem with the west is inability to deal with matters outside the UN. NATO attacked Serbia without any approval. NATO attacked Afghanistan and Iraq without any approval so what the problem now? What’s holding them back? Their superior weapons not up to it?
No it’s the United States of Piss and Wind – windbags at their best. They can’t do the job and then blame Russia for not playing their game – doesn’t the US have the most powerful army in the world????
The same joke of a newspaper keeps writing that the US will be back on top in a decade. They have been saying this since 2000, but they don’t mention which decade.
(sj, 31 December 2012 12:47)
Why should Bashar seek for a shelter ? Is he losing the battle – definitely no. The invaders control only desert parts of the Sunni regions while the cities and other important parts are controlled by the legal government and the Kurds keep him. Thus the US tactics for the time being is to demoralize the opponent and to destroy the country so that no matter who wins Assad or Al Qaeda they will depend on the Western aid. But Bashar don’t have to run. To say nothing that in Iran or Iraq he will be accepted as a national hero. Barvikha is 5 km away from where I live. If not the plugs at the rush hours it’s a very nice place to spend your days but Bashar do not need it. He has good chances to live in his beloved fatherland. So the discussion as well as the current article are aimed to demoralize the government forces. Another question is what will happen to the Alliwites called the Allawites to the Druz to the Christians to the grave of Hafez Assad ect in case he has to run. So Barvikha is not a solution. Especially for the Oriental mentality. And the West has no legal tools to change the situation in their favor while my country helped by China and Iran+Iraq still provide their firm support. That’s why Barvikha item as I believe has been raised.
(rote, 31 December 2012 08:53)
Russia loves Democratic Leaders, hence why all are welcome in Democratic Russia!
(Haitan, 30 December 2012 15:24)
So does the US. It’s given many a murderous regime leader sanctuary such as Marcos and his family of the Philippines; various members of the Saudi family live in the US. General Pinochet was given medical treatment in the US. There are plenty other – some are even African butchers.
Now are these democratic murders unlike the evil doers the Russians deal with?
(sj, 31 December 2012 12:56)
This is simple black propaganda by the NYT on behalf of the government. If the NYT so blatantly takes part in military psychological operations, then it follows that their journalists are military targets. NATO set the precedent long ago using the Press Pool system in 1991 (Iraq) and then executed journalists on RTB in 1999. You reap what you sow.
(He Who Pays The Piper..., 31 December 2012 00:32)
Assad family was brought to power by CIA in 70's just like so many vile brutes in the region.
Saddam Hussein was even given golden keys of city of Detroit.
So, why don't you just take your garbage back?
(Sreten, 30 December 2012 19:16)
Because garbage gets discarded in landfill.Russia.
(Mark, 30 December 2012 19:32)
Russia loves Democratic Leaders, hence why all are welcome in Democratic Russia!
(Haitan, 30 December 2012 15:24)
Milosevic was democratically elected. Not that I would have voted for a communist but besides the point, he was elected- not a dictator. Get your facts straight.
(Ari Gold, 30 December 2012 18:09)
Assad family was brought to power by CIA in 70's just like so many vile brutes in the region.
Saddam Hussein was even given golden keys of city of Detroit.
So, why don't you just take your garbage back?
(Sreten, 30 December 2012 19:16)
Milosevic was democratically elected. Not that I would have voted for a communist but besides the point, he was elected- not a dictator. Get your facts straight.
(Ari Gold, 30 December 2012 18:09)
I never said that Milosevic wasn't elected. I never said that he was a Dictator. I think you should get your fact straight.
(Haitian, 31 December 2012 01:27)
Assad is going nowhere,why should he just because the arrogant Empire demands it,he will stay to defend his Country from the same wild Dogs that were sent to the FRY to murder Serbs by that same arrogant Empire.
(Englishman, 30 December 2012 19:53)
Russia loves Democratic Leaders, hence why all are welcome in Democratic Russia!
(Haitan, 30 December 2012 15:24)
So does the US. It’s given many a murderous regime leader sanctuary such as Marcos and his family of the Philippines; various members of the Saudi family live in the US. General Pinochet was given medical treatment in the US. There are plenty other – some are even African butchers.
Now are these democratic murders unlike the evil doers the Russians deal with?
(sj, 31 December 2012 12:56)
This is simple black propaganda by the NYT on behalf of the government. If the NYT so blatantly takes part in military psychological operations, then it follows that their journalists are military targets. NATO set the precedent long ago using the Press Pool system in 1991 (Iraq) and then executed journalists on RTB in 1999. You reap what you sow.
(He Who Pays The Piper..., 31 December 2012 00:32)
I strongly suggest that the New York Times change its name to the New York BS. The drivel these American journalists tend to write is incredible. They make it up as they go along.
Assad is going nowhere soon at all. The problem with the west is inability to deal with matters outside the UN. NATO attacked Serbia without any approval. NATO attacked Afghanistan and Iraq without any approval so what the problem now? What’s holding them back? Their superior weapons not up to it?
No it’s the United States of Piss and Wind – windbags at their best. They can’t do the job and then blame Russia for not playing their game – doesn’t the US have the most powerful army in the world????
The same joke of a newspaper keeps writing that the US will be back on top in a decade. They have been saying this since 2000, but they don’t mention which decade.
(sj, 31 December 2012 12:47)
Why should Bashar seek for a shelter ? Is he losing the battle – definitely no. The invaders control only desert parts of the Sunni regions while the cities and other important parts are controlled by the legal government and the Kurds keep him. Thus the US tactics for the time being is to demoralize the opponent and to destroy the country so that no matter who wins Assad or Al Qaeda they will depend on the Western aid. But Bashar don’t have to run. To say nothing that in Iran or Iraq he will be accepted as a national hero. Barvikha is 5 km away from where I live. If not the plugs at the rush hours it’s a very nice place to spend your days but Bashar do not need it. He has good chances to live in his beloved fatherland. So the discussion as well as the current article are aimed to demoralize the government forces. Another question is what will happen to the Alliwites called the Allawites to the Druz to the Christians to the grave of Hafez Assad ect in case he has to run. So Barvikha is not a solution. Especially for the Oriental mentality. And the West has no legal tools to change the situation in their favor while my country helped by China and Iran+Iraq still provide their firm support. That’s why Barvikha item as I believe has been raised.
(rote, 31 December 2012 08:53)