PODGORICA -- Milo Djukanovic believes that Montenegro must have its own Orthodox Church in order to consolidate its national identity and oppose interference from Serbia.
Djukanovic: Montenegro must have its own church to resist interference from Serbia
PODGORICA -- Milo Djukanovic believes that Montenegro must have its own Orthodox Church in order to consolidate its national identity and oppose interference from Serbia.
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Djukanovic, who has been running the country for three decades, spoke about the controversial law on religious freedom, which triggered mass protests of the tens of thousands of believers who regularly take to the streets, a few months before the parliamentary elections in Montenegro.
The Serbian Orthodox Church (SPC), based in Belgrade, represents the vast majority of Orthodox believers in Montenegro. However, her relations with Djukanovic, who was an advocate of separation from Serbia in 2006, with whom Montenegro has been together for almost 90 years in 2006, have worsened in recent years.
The SPC is accused of being linked to the pro-Serbian and pro-Russian opposition to the ruling party, the Democratic Party of Socialists (DPS), headed by Milo Djukanovic, who has dominated political life in Montenegro since the 1990s.
According to him, Belgrade is using the SPC to interfere with Podgorica's internal affairs.
Djukanovic believes that SPC is one of "important instruments used by the ideologists of Greater Serbia nationalism against Montenegro, against its independence, its national, cultural and religious identity".
The law, passed in late December, provides for the state to take control of property that religious communities cannot prove to have belonged to them before 1918. That year, Montenegro lost its independence and integrated itself into the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slavs.
The text of the law could refer to a large part of 650 churches and monasteries in Montenegro. The SPC accuses the government of wanting to confiscate her property, with mass prayers being held twice a week, and at these rallies, it is called for the law revocation.
"SPC uses a skillful form of manipulation to believe that the state wants to take away their holy sanctuaries," Djukanovic said, adding that state-controlled churches would continue to receive Orthodox believers.
"It is a blackmail. The SPC is trying to use believers as a way of pressure on the state to give up the law, or to force it to capitulate. This is absolutely unacceptable", the Montenegrin President said.
According to him, Montenegro should have its own church as a way of asserting its national identity 14 years after independence.
"We are driven by the indisputable need to improve spiritual, social and state infrastructure in order to strengthen citizens' awareness of their identity," he said, adding that there should be an autonomous Orthodox Church in Montenegro that would bring together all Orthodox believers, "the members of the Serbian, together with the members of the Montenegrin nationality".
For 30 years, the small Orthodox Church of Montenegro, in the minority, has been trying to revive, but it has not been recognized in the Orthodox world. As parliamentary elections scheduled for fall are nearing, critics accuse Djukanovic of using this controversy to divert attention from economic problems, mass emigration or corruption. Djukanovic, who has almost continuously changed his position from prime minister to president, has also been criticized for being an obstacle to democracy.
He responds that voters have always been free to express themselves and that his opponents are bad losers.
"My opponents are deceived if they think we will do them a favor and give them power without elections," he said, adding that Montenegro, which has made the most progress in EU membership negotiations, will continue its path of reform.
"I think that we will be able to fulfill our commitments and that Montenegro will be able to join the EU in 2025," he said, adding that the issue of the date of accession is not a priority, but to succeed in the Europeanization of Montenegrin society is among the priorities.
I have never compared Serbia with the US, Germany or France. I only compare Serbia with Balkan countries and that is why you post s***.
Try doing some research next time instead of repeating yourself like a parrot…Polly want a cracker LOL?
(sj, 19 February 2020 14:12)
I read Zhukov’s post and he repetitively and specifically referred to MSG, and no other commentator.
You have a delusional misperception of your own grandeur that other commentators will be offended by Zhukov’s accurate characterization and summary of your trolling.
(Commentator, 19 February 2020 11:00)
You did really great including the KLA, terrorism, ...into a completely offensive post
(Make Serbia Great, 18 February 2020 13:13)
Yes we know the fake Serb MSG is a defender of KLA criminal terrorists and, like his other Albanian trolls, is completely offended.
To further differentiate, I doubt the Serb commentators are offended at all.
I know this will sound impossible to MSG, but some of the real Serbs may even drive gasoline powered cars in Serbia.
(Zhukov, 18 February 2020 21:54)
sj,
It is very telling that ONE company of the DJI has a market value greater than the GDP of Serbia. The point being, Serbia is a minnow in an ocean of sharks. Your attempt to aggrandize Serbia is truly pathetic, by any standard.
(Butch, 18 February 2020 19:53)
I think I can speak on behalf of Ataman here. You did really great including the KLA, terrorism, judicial systems, Oliver Ivanoviæ, pro-Jugoslavs, Kusturica, Ustase, Islamism, and other completely unrelated persons and groups into a completely offensive post that will surely light the fire under a few commenters here. I suggest Ataman gives you a raise to 40 Rubles per doozie. You deserve it. No one else so much skill in writing such cost-effective posts: without substance (thereby allowing the author to not use his brain too much when he composes the post, and lowering the per-post cost to your boss) while offending the maximum number of persons. Congrats!
(Make Serbia Great, 18 February 2020 13:13)
The stock market is being propped up by the Federal Reserve through the Repurchase market (QE) not as a result of natural increases in stock prices. There are fears the moment that stops stock prices are going to crash.
About 10% of people in the US own 90% of all stock with the 1% being the mega rich.
The US government does not own any stock in Microsoft, Exxon or Apple etc so I find it very hard to believe that people actually think there is a strong connection between the companies and US government. These are two separate entities. Debt owed by government is NOT repaid by private companies but by the government.
The only connection is that private enterprise receives huge tax cuts and in return they create large numbers of low paid jobs. In January, 225,000 jobs were created but 85% are in the $10 to $12.50 per hour range.
The 2020 US budget deficit will be $1.02 trillion so by December the total federal debt will be close to $25 trillion.
According to US Treasury the US budget deficit for the first 4 months in 2020 will be 25% more than the same time period last year.
“…the Dow Jones Industrials has a value greater than the GDP of Serbia”.
Yes and you can add Romania, Hungary, Albania, Greece, Croatia, Slovenia, Czech and Slovak republics, Poland to that list. And your point is what?
(sj, 18 February 2020 07:33)
Unfortunately for Russia, Putin is leading his country into bankruptcy because he can no longer afford his adventures into Syria, Libya, Venezuela and other Banana Republics. The US has suckered Vlad into think the price of oil would rise for ever, however, those days are long over. Now Putin finds himself in the position of not being able to produce oil at a profit. Soon Russia will be putting the touch on Serbia for a loan. Oh the tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive.
(Rolandi, 18 February 2020 00:32)
Chi/sj,
US budget issues, really? This statement of yours only indicates your need to repeat your grade school course in Business/Economics. For your information, major US Stock Market indices have been reaching all time highs on regular basis. Furthermore, just one member, of many, of the Dow Jones Industrials has a value greater than the GDP of Serbia. So much for wishful thinking.
(Butch, 18 February 2020 00:02)
people obsessed with Serbia are the fake Serb MSG, his Albanian trolls and Milo the communist dictator Djukanovic.
Take your hands of Serb churches.
(Zhukov, 16 February 2020 22:16)
what is the difference in moral stature between a Serbian troll and an Albanian troll?
(Make Serbia Great, 17 February 2020 06:43)
An Albanian troll such as the fake Serb MSG, is defined by his overt lies, self-contradictions and self-incriminations. A few of the many reams of MSG’s morally corruption include: his denial that KLA terrorists and their criminally co-conspiring American foreign sponsors set-up a corrupt judicial system; it was MSG’s KLA terrorists who wrongly persecuted and imprisoned Oliver Ivanovic for years and it was MSG and the KLA terrorist hatred of Ivanovic and his political position, that KiM is part of Serbia, which culminated with his murder. All these KLA crimes are denied by MSG.
I can easily align with the overwhelming Serb sentiment, which is pro-Yugoslavs - sentiments detested by, the fake Serb MSG, and held by the great Serb Emir Kusturica or famous Austrian writer Peter Handke. MSG, like his criminal fundamentalists openly supported a fatwa against Handke. Albanian trolls, like MSG support Neo-Ustashe nationalists, Islamic-SDA fundamentalists, and kleptocratic dictators such as Djukanovic; not surprising that MSG, his KLA terrorists and their cohort of self-incriminating B92 trolls are on the wrong side of history and morally “wrong.”
(Zhukov, 17 February 2020 20:08)
Chi,
You seem to have overlooked the most notorious of all traitors to his country, Milosevic...
(Butch, 15 February 2020 21:44)
You people have grovelled to the west to this day and what have you got? SFA...
(sj, 17 February 2020 08:53)
Butch is largely correct. Where I dispute him is his last sentence:
“However, at that point it was too late for Serbia after the bombing and the indelible stain it left on Serbia and its people”.
Serbia’s fate was sealed when the “West” started to treat Gorbi as a door mat and it started when three traitors even bigger than Milosh killed the Soviet Union inside the Belovezh forest. No USSR = Jugoslavija became obsolete.
And Serbia was siding with than-weak Russia, while Milosh was privately hating everything what was even remotely Russian.
Where I dispute what Butch writes is that every warlord of Jugoslavija was a traitor of his country, not only Milosh. This is not an excuse for Milosh.
Where I dispute “sj” is that what he writes is an indirect negative tune against Albanians.
In this forum the trolls will amplify that 100x and throw at him back.
Besides, I don’t see any sign Butch is Albanian.
(Ataman, 17 February 2020 15:09)
Eagerly waiting for your insightful reply...
(Make Serbia Great, 17 February 2020 06:43)
Is it possible that you are really this dumb?????
Let me see if I can educate you. I know it will be near impossible but let me try.
If a Serb is on B92 or RTS or any Serbian-based media site posting their comments then that person is NOT a troll. Nor for that matter is a person that is friendly to Serbs and posting on a Serb-based site. Therefore, trolls would be people like yourself who pretend to live in Serbia run 3 farms and employ many locals but constantly post drivel that is heavily against Serbs. Then there are your Albo brothers who can also be called trolls.
(sj, 17 February 2020 15:08)
Just one question: what is the difference in moral stature between a Serbian troll and an Albanian troll?
Eagerly waiting for your insightful reply...
(Make Serbia Great, 17 February 2020 06:43)
Let's see what Zhukov will tell, but the presumably fake Skenderbeu 1444 is the perfect answer to your question.
As an example let's see who is "Милош Ћирић", what would he say or act on this board?
I am talking about a Serbian politilogist, not about the visual artist who passed away in 1999.
Google is your friend, read what he writes.
His ideas are correct, but what he writes borders trolling.
If you read what he writes you would think he copy-pastes from Tom.
That, too, gives an interesting idea.
I think that if you start to strongly and honestly support any non-violent idea - that should be just fine. The problems begin when other people start to question the "honesty" word.
The fake Sken 1444, fake Peggy, fake Rok Camaj, fake Tom L'Orizi (because that nick is recycled, too), fake Lenard is all faked honesty.
We are not talking about Serbs or Albanians here. To 99.99% the problem of B92 forum is the faked honesty and the bullying what comes as a result.
I do not even know to 100% who-is-who anymore.
(Ataman, 17 February 2020 14:53)
Especially if it's Lukacs Bath.
(Make Serbia Great, 17 February 2020 06:40)
This is how the SAAB factory in Trollhätten works.
I would definitely bet more than 33 Rbl that the poster wasn't Skenderbeu 1444.
- I am not close to Lukács Fürdõ, not really into that fun, but admit most people love it.
- The "õ" or "û" are excellent tools for a while because most trolls with basic computer set up only will confuse them with "ö" or "ü".
Glagolitic writing is the next more advanced tool, I guess.
But I am confused about the reason, see also the recent fake Peggy.
The eternal question: "POCEMU?" remains open
Just because Trollhätten is a nice city?
(Lukács fürdõ is not a gyepû, 17 February 2020 14:30)
30 rubles for Ant is not a problem but why don't YOU donate one of your farms to Ant so finally farmers there start to work and to learn how to prune vegetation?
(Skenderbeu 1444, 16 February 2020 22:10)
My humble guess, this poster was either Jerry or Tom.
Few reasons:
- Skenderbeu 1444 has completely different style.
- Skenderbeu 1444 won't speak for my money, even if it is virtual currency
(Conclusion: I don't think this was written by Skenderbeu 1444)
- I already said everything about 33 Rbl.
- The post of a possibly fake Skenderbeu 1444 shall deserve 33 "green" "+".
- I wish, B92 would implement "+" or "-" system in silver color, this should be a special currency for trolls.
(Ataman, 17 February 2020 14:19)
You seem to have overlooked the most notorious of all traitors to his country, Milosevic, ultimately, had Serbia bombed to save his own skin. Fortunately his skin was saved only briefly, then he got what was coming to him. However, at that point it was too late for Serbia after the bombing and the indelible stain it left on Serbia and its people.
(Butch, 15 February 2020 21:44)
You people have grovelled to the west to this day and what have you got? SFA. You see our enemies respect us more than your lot who they treat as door mats.
(sj, 17 February 2020 08:53)
MSG, the fake Serb, should realize that neither referred to Serbia in their posts. As a matter of fact the people obsessed with Serbia are the fake Serb MSG, his Albanian trolls and Milo the communist dictator Djukanovic.
Take your hands of Serb churches.
(Zhukov, 16 February 2020 22:16)
Just one question: what is the difference in moral stature between a Serbian troll and an Albanian troll?
Eagerly waiting for your insightful reply...
(Make Serbia Great, 17 February 2020 06:43)
30 rubles for Ant is not a problem but why don't YOU donate one of your farms to Ant so finally farmers there start to work and to learn how to prune vegetation?
(Skenderbeu 1444, 16 February 2020 22:10)
I had this problem recently with someone else. A local farmer felt a little bit squeezed by a foreigner moving into the village and buying long-abandoned domaæinstvo. It completely changed his plans. And when I bought the fourth domaæinstvo (which he thought I had no chance of buying), I was able to put the four together into one. He also asked if I would sell him land. But that option is off the table, unless he gives me one of the baths in Budapest in exchange. Especially if it's Lukacs Bath.
(Make Serbia Great, 17 February 2020 06:40)
Great job, guys. @Blue and Navi did a great job defending Serb nationalism and "expansionism/rightful-ism"
(Make Serbia Great, 15 February 2020 22:50)
MSG, the fake Serb, should realize that neither referred to Serbia in their posts. As a matter of fact the people obsessed with Serbia are the fake Serb MSG, his Albanian trolls and Milo the communist dictator Djukanovic.
Take your hands of Serb churches.
(Zhukov, 16 February 2020 22:16)
30 rubles for Ant is not a problem but why don't YOU donate one of your farms to Ant so finally farmers there start to work and to learn how to prune vegetation?
(Skenderbeu 1444, 16 February 2020 22:10)
Chi,
You seem to have overlooked the most notorious of all traitors to his country, Milosevic, ultimately, had Serbia bombed to save his own skin. Fortunately his skin was saved only briefly, then he got what was coming to him. However, at that point it was too late for Serbia after the bombing and the indelible stain it left on Serbia and its people.
(Butch, 15 February 2020 21:44)
Butch, the indelible stain you talk about will forever be on the US/West for breaking the law and attacking a sovereign nation - as the saying goes, "what comes around, goes around". I don't see Milosevic as a traitor, but someone that came into the game late. At that time, the country was moving pretty hard towards democracy; however, the US wanted their little silly base in KiM, and let's not forget HillBilly Clinton trying to deflect his Oval Office antics (Cigar Event to name one) by starting a war - and let's not forget the the others, namely Albright. that lined their pockets on the backs of poor Kosovars. So, whether Milosevic survived to not, doesn't matter - Serbia is moving in the right direction today and has the respect of most of world. You see this by all the contras withdrawing recognition, and the economy and infrastructure getting better by the day. At some point Camp Bondsteel will cease to exist - at the coat of $50M US annually, and all the budget issues the US has now, it's just a matter of time.
(Chi, 16 February 2020 20:43)
Great job, guys. @Blue and Navi did a great job defending Serb nationalism and "expansionism/rightful-ism" (depending on how a person sees the issue of borders), ant struck back beautifully, and the rest piled on ant and Djukanovic. I'm really proud of you guys, especially ant. He was the most successful, provoking up to five hateful responses. Thirty more rubles from atamans bank account for ant!
(Make Serbia Great, 15 February 2020 22:50)
Chi,
You seem to have overlooked the most notorious of all traitors to his country, Milosevic, ultimately, had Serbia bombed to save his own skin. Fortunately his skin was saved only briefly, then he got what was coming to him. However, at that point it was too late for Serbia after the bombing and the indelible stain it left on Serbia and its people.
(Butch, 15 February 2020 21:44)
Has Djukanovic ever heard of the ROMAN Catholic Church.It's all over the globe and doesn't seem to have an issue with it's name anywhere in the world, including Montenegro. So why has Djukanovic, who appears to have a Serbian name, got a problem with the SERBIAN Orthodox Church calling itself Serbian. One can only conclude that this man is a bullsh.... who wants to use any mechanism he can to maintain the criminal grip he's had on my ancestral homeland for decades. It's time for this guy to familiarise himself with the inner dimensions of a prison cell. That abode has been beckoning him for longer than one cares to remember.
(Times up, 15 February 2020 15:16)
Sadly in an attempt to hold power, he is trying to use divisiveness and anti-democratic tools, which violate human rights, as opposed to unity and harmony to address a major concern of over 28% or more of the population. Unfortunately for some, these movies end, and the result is that truth, justice and the "will of the people" is always spoken.
(Dragan from Toronto, 15 February 2020 12:19)
Would somebody please tell this POS that he's Serbian, FROM Montenegro!!! There is no race or nationality called Montenegrin (don't preach the recent Western forced history)- this just refers to the region you're from, that's it. I hope he gets what he deserves, and I don't mean a Nobel Prize ... In Serbian history, there has always been that one traitorous person that sets our people back, and history will show that Djukanovic is the one for this generation.
(Chi, 14 February 2020 21:15)
At some point, this POS is going to have to high-tail it out of the country to save his life. One of the few dictators left in Europe. He's as corrupt as Thaci and Haradinaj, and maybe more, and he's a Western Asskisser. When will the Montenegrin people wake up and get this criminal element out of office, and hopefully out of the country. Maybe he can get asylum in KiM with his fellow corrupt, land stealing, traitorous pals. He might have to go to Albania, since Serbia can possible extradite him from their province to face the music. I'm surprised nobody has offed this bastard... well, I guess there is still time, especially that tensions are growing now.
(Chi, 14 February 2020 21:05)
That Montenegro leader wants to break up Montenegro in 2 like Bosnia it is. ethnic division is what he wants. He ended his attack on the orthodox Church because he breached the EU law and now he wants to break up Montenegro. It's about keeping himself in power that man should be arrested.
(@Blue, 14 February 2020 15:49)
That Montenegro leader wants to break up Montenegro in 2 like Bosnia it is. ethnic division is what he wants. He ended his attack on the orthodox Church because he breached the EU law and now he wants to break up Montenegro. It's about keeping himself in power that man should be arrested.
(@Blue, 14 February 2020 15:49)
Would somebody please tell this POS that he's Serbian, FROM Montenegro!!! There is no race or nationality called Montenegrin (don't preach the recent Western forced history)- this just refers to the region you're from, that's it. I hope he gets what he deserves, and I don't mean a Nobel Prize ... In Serbian history, there has always been that one traitorous person that sets our people back, and history will show that Djukanovic is the one for this generation.
(Chi, 14 February 2020 21:15)
Sadly in an attempt to hold power, he is trying to use divisiveness and anti-democratic tools, which violate human rights, as opposed to unity and harmony to address a major concern of over 28% or more of the population. Unfortunately for some, these movies end, and the result is that truth, justice and the "will of the people" is always spoken.
(Dragan from Toronto, 15 February 2020 12:19)
Has Djukanovic ever heard of the ROMAN Catholic Church.It's all over the globe and doesn't seem to have an issue with it's name anywhere in the world, including Montenegro. So why has Djukanovic, who appears to have a Serbian name, got a problem with the SERBIAN Orthodox Church calling itself Serbian. One can only conclude that this man is a bullsh.... who wants to use any mechanism he can to maintain the criminal grip he's had on my ancestral homeland for decades. It's time for this guy to familiarise himself with the inner dimensions of a prison cell. That abode has been beckoning him for longer than one cares to remember.
(Times up, 15 February 2020 15:16)
At some point, this POS is going to have to high-tail it out of the country to save his life. One of the few dictators left in Europe. He's as corrupt as Thaci and Haradinaj, and maybe more, and he's a Western Asskisser. When will the Montenegrin people wake up and get this criminal element out of office, and hopefully out of the country. Maybe he can get asylum in KiM with his fellow corrupt, land stealing, traitorous pals. He might have to go to Albania, since Serbia can possible extradite him from their province to face the music. I'm surprised nobody has offed this bastard... well, I guess there is still time, especially that tensions are growing now.
(Chi, 14 February 2020 21:05)
Great job, guys. @Blue and Navi did a great job defending Serb nationalism and "expansionism/rightful-ism"
(Make Serbia Great, 15 February 2020 22:50)
MSG, the fake Serb, should realize that neither referred to Serbia in their posts. As a matter of fact the people obsessed with Serbia are the fake Serb MSG, his Albanian trolls and Milo the communist dictator Djukanovic.
Take your hands of Serb churches.
(Zhukov, 16 February 2020 22:16)
Chi,
You seem to have overlooked the most notorious of all traitors to his country, Milosevic, ultimately, had Serbia bombed to save his own skin. Fortunately his skin was saved only briefly, then he got what was coming to him. However, at that point it was too late for Serbia after the bombing and the indelible stain it left on Serbia and its people.
(Butch, 15 February 2020 21:44)
Chi,
You seem to have overlooked the most notorious of all traitors to his country, Milosevic, ultimately, had Serbia bombed to save his own skin. Fortunately his skin was saved only briefly, then he got what was coming to him. However, at that point it was too late for Serbia after the bombing and the indelible stain it left on Serbia and its people.
(Butch, 15 February 2020 21:44)
Butch, the indelible stain you talk about will forever be on the US/West for breaking the law and attacking a sovereign nation - as the saying goes, "what comes around, goes around". I don't see Milosevic as a traitor, but someone that came into the game late. At that time, the country was moving pretty hard towards democracy; however, the US wanted their little silly base in KiM, and let's not forget HillBilly Clinton trying to deflect his Oval Office antics (Cigar Event to name one) by starting a war - and let's not forget the the others, namely Albright. that lined their pockets on the backs of poor Kosovars. So, whether Milosevic survived to not, doesn't matter - Serbia is moving in the right direction today and has the respect of most of world. You see this by all the contras withdrawing recognition, and the economy and infrastructure getting better by the day. At some point Camp Bondsteel will cease to exist - at the coat of $50M US annually, and all the budget issues the US has now, it's just a matter of time.
(Chi, 16 February 2020 20:43)
You seem to have overlooked the most notorious of all traitors to his country, Milosevic, ultimately, had Serbia bombed to save his own skin. Fortunately his skin was saved only briefly, then he got what was coming to him. However, at that point it was too late for Serbia after the bombing and the indelible stain it left on Serbia and its people.
(Butch, 15 February 2020 21:44)
You people have grovelled to the west to this day and what have you got? SFA. You see our enemies respect us more than your lot who they treat as door mats.
(sj, 17 February 2020 08:53)
people obsessed with Serbia are the fake Serb MSG, his Albanian trolls and Milo the communist dictator Djukanovic.
Take your hands of Serb churches.
(Zhukov, 16 February 2020 22:16)
what is the difference in moral stature between a Serbian troll and an Albanian troll?
(Make Serbia Great, 17 February 2020 06:43)
An Albanian troll such as the fake Serb MSG, is defined by his overt lies, self-contradictions and self-incriminations. A few of the many reams of MSG’s morally corruption include: his denial that KLA terrorists and their criminally co-conspiring American foreign sponsors set-up a corrupt judicial system; it was MSG’s KLA terrorists who wrongly persecuted and imprisoned Oliver Ivanovic for years and it was MSG and the KLA terrorist hatred of Ivanovic and his political position, that KiM is part of Serbia, which culminated with his murder. All these KLA crimes are denied by MSG.
I can easily align with the overwhelming Serb sentiment, which is pro-Yugoslavs - sentiments detested by, the fake Serb MSG, and held by the great Serb Emir Kusturica or famous Austrian writer Peter Handke. MSG, like his criminal fundamentalists openly supported a fatwa against Handke. Albanian trolls, like MSG support Neo-Ustashe nationalists, Islamic-SDA fundamentalists, and kleptocratic dictators such as Djukanovic; not surprising that MSG, his KLA terrorists and their cohort of self-incriminating B92 trolls are on the wrong side of history and morally “wrong.”
(Zhukov, 17 February 2020 20:08)
Great job, guys. @Blue and Navi did a great job defending Serb nationalism and "expansionism/rightful-ism" (depending on how a person sees the issue of borders), ant struck back beautifully, and the rest piled on ant and Djukanovic. I'm really proud of you guys, especially ant. He was the most successful, provoking up to five hateful responses. Thirty more rubles from atamans bank account for ant!
(Make Serbia Great, 15 February 2020 22:50)
Chi/sj,
US budget issues, really? This statement of yours only indicates your need to repeat your grade school course in Business/Economics. For your information, major US Stock Market indices have been reaching all time highs on regular basis. Furthermore, just one member, of many, of the Dow Jones Industrials has a value greater than the GDP of Serbia. So much for wishful thinking.
(Butch, 18 February 2020 00:02)
The stock market is being propped up by the Federal Reserve through the Repurchase market (QE) not as a result of natural increases in stock prices. There are fears the moment that stops stock prices are going to crash.
About 10% of people in the US own 90% of all stock with the 1% being the mega rich.
The US government does not own any stock in Microsoft, Exxon or Apple etc so I find it very hard to believe that people actually think there is a strong connection between the companies and US government. These are two separate entities. Debt owed by government is NOT repaid by private companies but by the government.
The only connection is that private enterprise receives huge tax cuts and in return they create large numbers of low paid jobs. In January, 225,000 jobs were created but 85% are in the $10 to $12.50 per hour range.
The 2020 US budget deficit will be $1.02 trillion so by December the total federal debt will be close to $25 trillion.
According to US Treasury the US budget deficit for the first 4 months in 2020 will be 25% more than the same time period last year.
“…the Dow Jones Industrials has a value greater than the GDP of Serbia”.
Yes and you can add Romania, Hungary, Albania, Greece, Croatia, Slovenia, Czech and Slovak republics, Poland to that list. And your point is what?
(sj, 18 February 2020 07:33)
You did really great including the KLA, terrorism, ...into a completely offensive post
(Make Serbia Great, 18 February 2020 13:13)
Yes we know the fake Serb MSG is a defender of KLA criminal terrorists and, like his other Albanian trolls, is completely offended.
To further differentiate, I doubt the Serb commentators are offended at all.
I know this will sound impossible to MSG, but some of the real Serbs may even drive gasoline powered cars in Serbia.
(Zhukov, 18 February 2020 21:54)
I read Zhukov’s post and he repetitively and specifically referred to MSG, and no other commentator.
You have a delusional misperception of your own grandeur that other commentators will be offended by Zhukov’s accurate characterization and summary of your trolling.
(Commentator, 19 February 2020 11:00)
Unfortunately for Russia, Putin is leading his country into bankruptcy because he can no longer afford his adventures into Syria, Libya, Venezuela and other Banana Republics. The US has suckered Vlad into think the price of oil would rise for ever, however, those days are long over. Now Putin finds himself in the position of not being able to produce oil at a profit. Soon Russia will be putting the touch on Serbia for a loan. Oh the tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive.
(Rolandi, 18 February 2020 00:32)
MSG, the fake Serb, should realize that neither referred to Serbia in their posts. As a matter of fact the people obsessed with Serbia are the fake Serb MSG, his Albanian trolls and Milo the communist dictator Djukanovic.
Take your hands of Serb churches.
(Zhukov, 16 February 2020 22:16)
Just one question: what is the difference in moral stature between a Serbian troll and an Albanian troll?
Eagerly waiting for your insightful reply...
(Make Serbia Great, 17 February 2020 06:43)
I think I can speak on behalf of Ataman here. You did really great including the KLA, terrorism, judicial systems, Oliver Ivanoviæ, pro-Jugoslavs, Kusturica, Ustase, Islamism, and other completely unrelated persons and groups into a completely offensive post that will surely light the fire under a few commenters here. I suggest Ataman gives you a raise to 40 Rubles per doozie. You deserve it. No one else so much skill in writing such cost-effective posts: without substance (thereby allowing the author to not use his brain too much when he composes the post, and lowering the per-post cost to your boss) while offending the maximum number of persons. Congrats!
(Make Serbia Great, 18 February 2020 13:13)
Eagerly waiting for your insightful reply...
(Make Serbia Great, 17 February 2020 06:43)
Is it possible that you are really this dumb?????
Let me see if I can educate you. I know it will be near impossible but let me try.
If a Serb is on B92 or RTS or any Serbian-based media site posting their comments then that person is NOT a troll. Nor for that matter is a person that is friendly to Serbs and posting on a Serb-based site. Therefore, trolls would be people like yourself who pretend to live in Serbia run 3 farms and employ many locals but constantly post drivel that is heavily against Serbs. Then there are your Albo brothers who can also be called trolls.
(sj, 17 February 2020 15:08)
I have never compared Serbia with the US, Germany or France. I only compare Serbia with Balkan countries and that is why you post s***.
Try doing some research next time instead of repeating yourself like a parrot…Polly want a cracker LOL?
(sj, 19 February 2020 14:12)
30 rubles for Ant is not a problem but why don't YOU donate one of your farms to Ant so finally farmers there start to work and to learn how to prune vegetation?
(Skenderbeu 1444, 16 February 2020 22:10)
sj,
It is very telling that ONE company of the DJI has a market value greater than the GDP of Serbia. The point being, Serbia is a minnow in an ocean of sharks. Your attempt to aggrandize Serbia is truly pathetic, by any standard.
(Butch, 18 February 2020 19:53)
30 rubles for Ant is not a problem but why don't YOU donate one of your farms to Ant so finally farmers there start to work and to learn how to prune vegetation?
(Skenderbeu 1444, 16 February 2020 22:10)
I had this problem recently with someone else. A local farmer felt a little bit squeezed by a foreigner moving into the village and buying long-abandoned domaæinstvo. It completely changed his plans. And when I bought the fourth domaæinstvo (which he thought I had no chance of buying), I was able to put the four together into one. He also asked if I would sell him land. But that option is off the table, unless he gives me one of the baths in Budapest in exchange. Especially if it's Lukacs Bath.
(Make Serbia Great, 17 February 2020 06:40)
Chi,
You seem to have overlooked the most notorious of all traitors to his country, Milosevic...
(Butch, 15 February 2020 21:44)
You people have grovelled to the west to this day and what have you got? SFA...
(sj, 17 February 2020 08:53)
Butch is largely correct. Where I dispute him is his last sentence:
“However, at that point it was too late for Serbia after the bombing and the indelible stain it left on Serbia and its people”.
Serbia’s fate was sealed when the “West” started to treat Gorbi as a door mat and it started when three traitors even bigger than Milosh killed the Soviet Union inside the Belovezh forest. No USSR = Jugoslavija became obsolete.
And Serbia was siding with than-weak Russia, while Milosh was privately hating everything what was even remotely Russian.
Where I dispute what Butch writes is that every warlord of Jugoslavija was a traitor of his country, not only Milosh. This is not an excuse for Milosh.
Where I dispute “sj” is that what he writes is an indirect negative tune against Albanians.
In this forum the trolls will amplify that 100x and throw at him back.
Besides, I don’t see any sign Butch is Albanian.
(Ataman, 17 February 2020 15:09)
30 rubles for Ant is not a problem but why don't YOU donate one of your farms to Ant so finally farmers there start to work and to learn how to prune vegetation?
(Skenderbeu 1444, 16 February 2020 22:10)
My humble guess, this poster was either Jerry or Tom.
Few reasons:
- Skenderbeu 1444 has completely different style.
- Skenderbeu 1444 won't speak for my money, even if it is virtual currency
(Conclusion: I don't think this was written by Skenderbeu 1444)
- I already said everything about 33 Rbl.
- The post of a possibly fake Skenderbeu 1444 shall deserve 33 "green" "+".
- I wish, B92 would implement "+" or "-" system in silver color, this should be a special currency for trolls.
(Ataman, 17 February 2020 14:19)
Especially if it's Lukacs Bath.
(Make Serbia Great, 17 February 2020 06:40)
This is how the SAAB factory in Trollhätten works.
I would definitely bet more than 33 Rbl that the poster wasn't Skenderbeu 1444.
- I am not close to Lukács Fürdõ, not really into that fun, but admit most people love it.
- The "õ" or "û" are excellent tools for a while because most trolls with basic computer set up only will confuse them with "ö" or "ü".
Glagolitic writing is the next more advanced tool, I guess.
But I am confused about the reason, see also the recent fake Peggy.
The eternal question: "POCEMU?" remains open
Just because Trollhätten is a nice city?
(Lukács fürdõ is not a gyepû, 17 February 2020 14:30)
Just one question: what is the difference in moral stature between a Serbian troll and an Albanian troll?
Eagerly waiting for your insightful reply...
(Make Serbia Great, 17 February 2020 06:43)
Let's see what Zhukov will tell, but the presumably fake Skenderbeu 1444 is the perfect answer to your question.
As an example let's see who is "Милош Ћирић", what would he say or act on this board?
I am talking about a Serbian politilogist, not about the visual artist who passed away in 1999.
Google is your friend, read what he writes.
His ideas are correct, but what he writes borders trolling.
If you read what he writes you would think he copy-pastes from Tom.
That, too, gives an interesting idea.
I think that if you start to strongly and honestly support any non-violent idea - that should be just fine. The problems begin when other people start to question the "honesty" word.
The fake Sken 1444, fake Peggy, fake Rok Camaj, fake Tom L'Orizi (because that nick is recycled, too), fake Lenard is all faked honesty.
We are not talking about Serbs or Albanians here. To 99.99% the problem of B92 forum is the faked honesty and the bullying what comes as a result.
I do not even know to 100% who-is-who anymore.
(Ataman, 17 February 2020 14:53)
That Montenegro leader wants to break up Montenegro in 2 like Bosnia it is. ethnic division is what he wants. He ended his attack on the orthodox Church because he breached the EU law and now he wants to break up Montenegro. It's about keeping himself in power that man should be arrested.
(@Blue, 14 February 2020 15:49)
Chi,
You seem to have overlooked the most notorious of all traitors to his country, Milosevic, ultimately, had Serbia bombed to save his own skin. Fortunately his skin was saved only briefly, then he got what was coming to him. However, at that point it was too late for Serbia after the bombing and the indelible stain it left on Serbia and its people.
(Butch, 15 February 2020 21:44)
Great job, guys. @Blue and Navi did a great job defending Serb nationalism and "expansionism/rightful-ism" (depending on how a person sees the issue of borders), ant struck back beautifully, and the rest piled on ant and Djukanovic. I'm really proud of you guys, especially ant. He was the most successful, provoking up to five hateful responses. Thirty more rubles from atamans bank account for ant!
(Make Serbia Great, 15 February 2020 22:50)
Would somebody please tell this POS that he's Serbian, FROM Montenegro!!! There is no race or nationality called Montenegrin (don't preach the recent Western forced history)- this just refers to the region you're from, that's it. I hope he gets what he deserves, and I don't mean a Nobel Prize ... In Serbian history, there has always been that one traitorous person that sets our people back, and history will show that Djukanovic is the one for this generation.
(Chi, 14 February 2020 21:15)
MSG, the fake Serb, should realize that neither referred to Serbia in their posts. As a matter of fact the people obsessed with Serbia are the fake Serb MSG, his Albanian trolls and Milo the communist dictator Djukanovic.
Take your hands of Serb churches.
(Zhukov, 16 February 2020 22:16)
Just one question: what is the difference in moral stature between a Serbian troll and an Albanian troll?
Eagerly waiting for your insightful reply...
(Make Serbia Great, 17 February 2020 06:43)
I think I can speak on behalf of Ataman here. You did really great including the KLA, terrorism, judicial systems, Oliver Ivanoviæ, pro-Jugoslavs, Kusturica, Ustase, Islamism, and other completely unrelated persons and groups into a completely offensive post that will surely light the fire under a few commenters here. I suggest Ataman gives you a raise to 40 Rubles per doozie. You deserve it. No one else so much skill in writing such cost-effective posts: without substance (thereby allowing the author to not use his brain too much when he composes the post, and lowering the per-post cost to your boss) while offending the maximum number of persons. Congrats!
(Make Serbia Great, 18 February 2020 13:13)
Sadly in an attempt to hold power, he is trying to use divisiveness and anti-democratic tools, which violate human rights, as opposed to unity and harmony to address a major concern of over 28% or more of the population. Unfortunately for some, these movies end, and the result is that truth, justice and the "will of the people" is always spoken.
(Dragan from Toronto, 15 February 2020 12:19)
Has Djukanovic ever heard of the ROMAN Catholic Church.It's all over the globe and doesn't seem to have an issue with it's name anywhere in the world, including Montenegro. So why has Djukanovic, who appears to have a Serbian name, got a problem with the SERBIAN Orthodox Church calling itself Serbian. One can only conclude that this man is a bullsh.... who wants to use any mechanism he can to maintain the criminal grip he's had on my ancestral homeland for decades. It's time for this guy to familiarise himself with the inner dimensions of a prison cell. That abode has been beckoning him for longer than one cares to remember.
(Times up, 15 February 2020 15:16)
At some point, this POS is going to have to high-tail it out of the country to save his life. One of the few dictators left in Europe. He's as corrupt as Thaci and Haradinaj, and maybe more, and he's a Western Asskisser. When will the Montenegrin people wake up and get this criminal element out of office, and hopefully out of the country. Maybe he can get asylum in KiM with his fellow corrupt, land stealing, traitorous pals. He might have to go to Albania, since Serbia can possible extradite him from their province to face the music. I'm surprised nobody has offed this bastard... well, I guess there is still time, especially that tensions are growing now.
(Chi, 14 February 2020 21:05)
Chi/sj,
US budget issues, really? This statement of yours only indicates your need to repeat your grade school course in Business/Economics. For your information, major US Stock Market indices have been reaching all time highs on regular basis. Furthermore, just one member, of many, of the Dow Jones Industrials has a value greater than the GDP of Serbia. So much for wishful thinking.
(Butch, 18 February 2020 00:02)
Unfortunately for Russia, Putin is leading his country into bankruptcy because he can no longer afford his adventures into Syria, Libya, Venezuela and other Banana Republics. The US has suckered Vlad into think the price of oil would rise for ever, however, those days are long over. Now Putin finds himself in the position of not being able to produce oil at a profit. Soon Russia will be putting the touch on Serbia for a loan. Oh the tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive.
(Rolandi, 18 February 2020 00:32)
people obsessed with Serbia are the fake Serb MSG, his Albanian trolls and Milo the communist dictator Djukanovic.
Take your hands of Serb churches.
(Zhukov, 16 February 2020 22:16)
what is the difference in moral stature between a Serbian troll and an Albanian troll?
(Make Serbia Great, 17 February 2020 06:43)
An Albanian troll such as the fake Serb MSG, is defined by his overt lies, self-contradictions and self-incriminations. A few of the many reams of MSG’s morally corruption include: his denial that KLA terrorists and their criminally co-conspiring American foreign sponsors set-up a corrupt judicial system; it was MSG’s KLA terrorists who wrongly persecuted and imprisoned Oliver Ivanovic for years and it was MSG and the KLA terrorist hatred of Ivanovic and his political position, that KiM is part of Serbia, which culminated with his murder. All these KLA crimes are denied by MSG.
I can easily align with the overwhelming Serb sentiment, which is pro-Yugoslavs - sentiments detested by, the fake Serb MSG, and held by the great Serb Emir Kusturica or famous Austrian writer Peter Handke. MSG, like his criminal fundamentalists openly supported a fatwa against Handke. Albanian trolls, like MSG support Neo-Ustashe nationalists, Islamic-SDA fundamentalists, and kleptocratic dictators such as Djukanovic; not surprising that MSG, his KLA terrorists and their cohort of self-incriminating B92 trolls are on the wrong side of history and morally “wrong.”
(Zhukov, 17 February 2020 20:08)
The stock market is being propped up by the Federal Reserve through the Repurchase market (QE) not as a result of natural increases in stock prices. There are fears the moment that stops stock prices are going to crash.
About 10% of people in the US own 90% of all stock with the 1% being the mega rich.
The US government does not own any stock in Microsoft, Exxon or Apple etc so I find it very hard to believe that people actually think there is a strong connection between the companies and US government. These are two separate entities. Debt owed by government is NOT repaid by private companies but by the government.
The only connection is that private enterprise receives huge tax cuts and in return they create large numbers of low paid jobs. In January, 225,000 jobs were created but 85% are in the $10 to $12.50 per hour range.
The 2020 US budget deficit will be $1.02 trillion so by December the total federal debt will be close to $25 trillion.
According to US Treasury the US budget deficit for the first 4 months in 2020 will be 25% more than the same time period last year.
“…the Dow Jones Industrials has a value greater than the GDP of Serbia”.
Yes and you can add Romania, Hungary, Albania, Greece, Croatia, Slovenia, Czech and Slovak republics, Poland to that list. And your point is what?
(sj, 18 February 2020 07:33)
Chi,
You seem to have overlooked the most notorious of all traitors to his country, Milosevic, ultimately, had Serbia bombed to save his own skin. Fortunately his skin was saved only briefly, then he got what was coming to him. However, at that point it was too late for Serbia after the bombing and the indelible stain it left on Serbia and its people.
(Butch, 15 February 2020 21:44)
Butch, the indelible stain you talk about will forever be on the US/West for breaking the law and attacking a sovereign nation - as the saying goes, "what comes around, goes around". I don't see Milosevic as a traitor, but someone that came into the game late. At that time, the country was moving pretty hard towards democracy; however, the US wanted their little silly base in KiM, and let's not forget HillBilly Clinton trying to deflect his Oval Office antics (Cigar Event to name one) by starting a war - and let's not forget the the others, namely Albright. that lined their pockets on the backs of poor Kosovars. So, whether Milosevic survived to not, doesn't matter - Serbia is moving in the right direction today and has the respect of most of world. You see this by all the contras withdrawing recognition, and the economy and infrastructure getting better by the day. At some point Camp Bondsteel will cease to exist - at the coat of $50M US annually, and all the budget issues the US has now, it's just a matter of time.
(Chi, 16 February 2020 20:43)
You seem to have overlooked the most notorious of all traitors to his country, Milosevic, ultimately, had Serbia bombed to save his own skin. Fortunately his skin was saved only briefly, then he got what was coming to him. However, at that point it was too late for Serbia after the bombing and the indelible stain it left on Serbia and its people.
(Butch, 15 February 2020 21:44)
You people have grovelled to the west to this day and what have you got? SFA. You see our enemies respect us more than your lot who they treat as door mats.
(sj, 17 February 2020 08:53)
Chi,
You seem to have overlooked the most notorious of all traitors to his country, Milosevic...
(Butch, 15 February 2020 21:44)
You people have grovelled to the west to this day and what have you got? SFA...
(sj, 17 February 2020 08:53)
Butch is largely correct. Where I dispute him is his last sentence:
“However, at that point it was too late for Serbia after the bombing and the indelible stain it left on Serbia and its people”.
Serbia’s fate was sealed when the “West” started to treat Gorbi as a door mat and it started when three traitors even bigger than Milosh killed the Soviet Union inside the Belovezh forest. No USSR = Jugoslavija became obsolete.
And Serbia was siding with than-weak Russia, while Milosh was privately hating everything what was even remotely Russian.
Where I dispute what Butch writes is that every warlord of Jugoslavija was a traitor of his country, not only Milosh. This is not an excuse for Milosh.
Where I dispute “sj” is that what he writes is an indirect negative tune against Albanians.
In this forum the trolls will amplify that 100x and throw at him back.
Besides, I don’t see any sign Butch is Albanian.
(Ataman, 17 February 2020 15:09)
30 rubles for Ant is not a problem but why don't YOU donate one of your farms to Ant so finally farmers there start to work and to learn how to prune vegetation?
(Skenderbeu 1444, 16 February 2020 22:10)
I had this problem recently with someone else. A local farmer felt a little bit squeezed by a foreigner moving into the village and buying long-abandoned domaæinstvo. It completely changed his plans. And when I bought the fourth domaæinstvo (which he thought I had no chance of buying), I was able to put the four together into one. He also asked if I would sell him land. But that option is off the table, unless he gives me one of the baths in Budapest in exchange. Especially if it's Lukacs Bath.
(Make Serbia Great, 17 February 2020 06:40)
30 rubles for Ant is not a problem but why don't YOU donate one of your farms to Ant so finally farmers there start to work and to learn how to prune vegetation?
(Skenderbeu 1444, 16 February 2020 22:10)
My humble guess, this poster was either Jerry or Tom.
Few reasons:
- Skenderbeu 1444 has completely different style.
- Skenderbeu 1444 won't speak for my money, even if it is virtual currency
(Conclusion: I don't think this was written by Skenderbeu 1444)
- I already said everything about 33 Rbl.
- The post of a possibly fake Skenderbeu 1444 shall deserve 33 "green" "+".
- I wish, B92 would implement "+" or "-" system in silver color, this should be a special currency for trolls.
(Ataman, 17 February 2020 14:19)
Great job, guys. @Blue and Navi did a great job defending Serb nationalism and "expansionism/rightful-ism"
(Make Serbia Great, 15 February 2020 22:50)
MSG, the fake Serb, should realize that neither referred to Serbia in their posts. As a matter of fact the people obsessed with Serbia are the fake Serb MSG, his Albanian trolls and Milo the communist dictator Djukanovic.
Take your hands of Serb churches.
(Zhukov, 16 February 2020 22:16)
Just one question: what is the difference in moral stature between a Serbian troll and an Albanian troll?
Eagerly waiting for your insightful reply...
(Make Serbia Great, 17 February 2020 06:43)
Let's see what Zhukov will tell, but the presumably fake Skenderbeu 1444 is the perfect answer to your question.
As an example let's see who is "Милош Ћирић", what would he say or act on this board?
I am talking about a Serbian politilogist, not about the visual artist who passed away in 1999.
Google is your friend, read what he writes.
His ideas are correct, but what he writes borders trolling.
If you read what he writes you would think he copy-pastes from Tom.
That, too, gives an interesting idea.
I think that if you start to strongly and honestly support any non-violent idea - that should be just fine. The problems begin when other people start to question the "honesty" word.
The fake Sken 1444, fake Peggy, fake Rok Camaj, fake Tom L'Orizi (because that nick is recycled, too), fake Lenard is all faked honesty.
We are not talking about Serbs or Albanians here. To 99.99% the problem of B92 forum is the faked honesty and the bullying what comes as a result.
I do not even know to 100% who-is-who anymore.
(Ataman, 17 February 2020 14:53)
30 rubles for Ant is not a problem but why don't YOU donate one of your farms to Ant so finally farmers there start to work and to learn how to prune vegetation?
(Skenderbeu 1444, 16 February 2020 22:10)
sj,
It is very telling that ONE company of the DJI has a market value greater than the GDP of Serbia. The point being, Serbia is a minnow in an ocean of sharks. Your attempt to aggrandize Serbia is truly pathetic, by any standard.
(Butch, 18 February 2020 19:53)
Eagerly waiting for your insightful reply...
(Make Serbia Great, 17 February 2020 06:43)
Is it possible that you are really this dumb?????
Let me see if I can educate you. I know it will be near impossible but let me try.
If a Serb is on B92 or RTS or any Serbian-based media site posting their comments then that person is NOT a troll. Nor for that matter is a person that is friendly to Serbs and posting on a Serb-based site. Therefore, trolls would be people like yourself who pretend to live in Serbia run 3 farms and employ many locals but constantly post drivel that is heavily against Serbs. Then there are your Albo brothers who can also be called trolls.
(sj, 17 February 2020 15:08)
I have never compared Serbia with the US, Germany or France. I only compare Serbia with Balkan countries and that is why you post s***.
Try doing some research next time instead of repeating yourself like a parrot…Polly want a cracker LOL?
(sj, 19 February 2020 14:12)
You did really great including the KLA, terrorism, ...into a completely offensive post
(Make Serbia Great, 18 February 2020 13:13)
Yes we know the fake Serb MSG is a defender of KLA criminal terrorists and, like his other Albanian trolls, is completely offended.
To further differentiate, I doubt the Serb commentators are offended at all.
I know this will sound impossible to MSG, but some of the real Serbs may even drive gasoline powered cars in Serbia.
(Zhukov, 18 February 2020 21:54)
I read Zhukov’s post and he repetitively and specifically referred to MSG, and no other commentator.
You have a delusional misperception of your own grandeur that other commentators will be offended by Zhukov’s accurate characterization and summary of your trolling.
(Commentator, 19 February 2020 11:00)
Especially if it's Lukacs Bath.
(Make Serbia Great, 17 February 2020 06:40)
This is how the SAAB factory in Trollhätten works.
I would definitely bet more than 33 Rbl that the poster wasn't Skenderbeu 1444.
- I am not close to Lukács Fürdõ, not really into that fun, but admit most people love it.
- The "õ" or "û" are excellent tools for a while because most trolls with basic computer set up only will confuse them with "ö" or "ü".
Glagolitic writing is the next more advanced tool, I guess.
But I am confused about the reason, see also the recent fake Peggy.
The eternal question: "POCEMU?" remains open
Just because Trollhätten is a nice city?
(Lukács fürdõ is not a gyepû, 17 February 2020 14:30)
