If Pristina renews its failed 2015 bid to join UNESCO, Serbia is prepared to fight diplomatically to prevent it, says Serbia's ambassador to this UN agency.
Belgrade is "prepared" in case Pristina renews UNESCO bid
If Pristina renews its failed 2015 bid to join UNESCO, Serbia is prepared to fight diplomatically to prevent it, says Serbia's ambassador to this UN agency.
Source: Tanjug
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(Tanjug, file)
"There have been announcements that the authorities in Pristina are considering renewing their request to allow 'Kosovo' to join UNESCO. Among others, this ambition has recently been voiced by Foreign Minister Enver Hoxhaj, at the Foreign Affairs Committee of the European Parliament. That, of course, still does not mean that there will be a request," Tanaskovic said.
According to him, some analysts in Pristina, "and also foreign advisers" think that submitting another request would be "extremely risky" - considering that some legal and institutional work, above all related to institutional protection of the Serb cultural and spiritual heritage that would make the request more credible, has not been done in Kosovo.
"And also, international circumstances that have changed to a degree, as well as the mood inside UNESCO itself, does not go in favor of putting such an inflammatory political motion on the organization's agenda. If Pristina still decides to attempt submitting the request, of course Serbia is ready for a diplomatic fight to prevent such a legally, politically, culturally, and ethically unacceptable action," the ambassador stressed.
As he explained, "considering the current procedure of determining the results of voting in UNESCO, which does not take into account the votes of those who abstained - and is in this case unfavorable for Serbia - the possibility exists that Kosovo could receive the necessary two-thirds of votes."
"The possibility that it would not is equally realistic, and perhaps at this time more realistic. Such votes taken by the 195 member-states at the General Conference of UNESCO are always extremely uncertain, which was demonstrated during the previous one, when 'Kosovo' was only three votes short," Tanaskovic stressed.
He said that there are hints that some countries could "change sides" compared to two years ago - "even some countries whose position on the issue of Kosovo, including its admission to international organization, has been immovably determined."
"UNESCO is not the same as the Olympic Committee or the World Bank. At least so far, not quite everything could be achieved in this organization by using political pressure, blackmail, or simply by buying it," the ambassador explained.
By possibly accepting Kosovo as a member of UNESCO, "a new situation would certainly be created regarding the formal status of the medieval Serbian holy places and the universally valuable cultural monuments, but that could not deny that they belong to the Serb cultural tradition."
According to him, UNESCO's documents "would treat our heritage along territorial lines, as cultural goods in Kosovo, in that sense only conditionally of Kosovo, and in no way as Albanian."
"That would be a very unfavorable development with potentially serious consequences, and the Pristina authorities and institutions would certainly engage in systematic abuse of the changed administrative status of our cultural heritage in order to 'Kosovize' it, that is, in order to build it into a non-existent, synthetic 'cultural identity of Kosovo', along with exerting constant pressure on religious, clerical, and monastic communities," Tanaskovic stressed.
He pointed out that an important segment of the nationalist project to create an Albanian state in Kosovo is to retroactively construct continuity of its cultural identity, which - just like its historical and political continuity - does not exist.
Asked what consequences Kosovo's admission to UNESCO would have on Serbia and the Serb identity, Tanaskovic said that the Serb people, and their identity, survived more serious challenges in the past.
"Serbs remained Serbs in everything that matters even after five centuries of Ottoman, Muslim rule. That's something everyone wanting to erase the Serb name or abolish Serb existence in historical Serb lands should bear in mind," Tanaskovic concluded.
"Serbs remained Serbs in everything that matters even after five centuries of Ottoman, Muslim rule. That's something everyone wanting to erase the Serb name or abolish Serb existence in historical Serb lands should bear in mind," Tanaskovic concluded.
Wonder if 95% of the Albo population can say the same thing...I think not...bunch of thieving cowards.
(royals, 26 May 2017 08:37)
Right, even if you have physical control of the artifact (pyramid) doesn't make it's past history yours - the world knows what it is, and recognizes for what it is. Plus you've just signed up for a whole bunch of duties, maintenance, upkeep, restoration, safety, and security, complying with UNESCO's to-do list etc., without any benefits - that history belongs to someone else. It's like taking on cleaning someone's toilet for free.
That's why the argument that Kosova wanting to get into UNESCO as akin to stealing Serbia's cultural heritage, is bogus.
The simple truth is that Kosova wants to be accepted into UNESCO as an act of further recognition. Serbia doesn't want Kosova to enter UNESCO for exactly the opposite reason. But in true Serbian fashion, they invent this hyperbole that makes absolutely no sense.
(Therret Prizreni, 24 May 2017 22:26)
I get it you are the majority in Kosovo but you cant take historical things that dont belong to you and call them Albanian.
(Sinisa Croat, 24 May 2017 01:33)
Fair point if this is the case, joining UNESCO has nothing to do with stealing the church will still be a Serb church in Kosovo, Serbia on the other hand wants Vatican status in Kosovo which Albanians do not want to give.
Jordan is in UNESCO with Petra and sure its not Jordan monument, and many other examples not needed to make the point.
Its a Serbian Orthodox church in Kosovo it belongs to Kosovo citizens but its Serbian church.
Jerusalem old city is in UNESCO is it Palestinian or is it Israeli (not decided yet) but in UNESCO.
Unesco has many other things but Serbs love symbols and I get it its attachment, however they lost the war. If there was a Hungarian church in Vojvodina should it be in UNESCO?
ie Arca Church: It was built around 1230 during administration of the Kingdom of Hungary. It was robbed and devastated in 1280 and reconstructed in 1370 as required by the Queen Elizabeth, and that’s when the Gothic tower that exists today was, probably, built.
So is Serbia stealing this history of Hungarians?
(Curtadore, 24 May 2017 20:57)
you said:"...so if someone wants to steal something, logically they would want to get out not get in."
sure, you're correct if one wishes to steal the mona lisa, or the hope diamond, or your neighbours automobile.
however, if one wishes to steal governance (otherwise known as a coup d'etat) they wish to get in not get out.
so logically theft involves the taking of something (tangible or abstract) and either getting in or getting out, which makes the direction of travel irrelevant.
you logic is flawed.
consider one wishes to steal the great pyramid of giza. one wouldn't simply pocket such a thing, and sneak their way out of cairo airport. one would plant themselves there, on the spot and take control. one would move their associates into strategic positions to defend that control, and one would move into the role of governance to cement that control.
stealing a history is not like stealing a car, something that you need to run off with. it is like stealing a unique monument: as each history is unique onto itself.
just because someone stakes a flag at the base of the flavian amphitheatre does not take away the fact that it is roman.
(bag of socks, 24 May 2017 18:04)
"but one thing i really dont understand is why you so called 'proud' albanians are always trying to steal Serb history? I get it you are the majority in Kosovo but you cant take historical things that don't belong to you and call them Albanian."
Since when applying to become a member of UNESCO constitutes "trying to steal Serb history"? How many members are in UNESCO? Did all of them became members to "steal" someone's else history since no current borders were there forever? UNESCO's role is just that, to protect historical/cultural heritage for humankind, so if someone wants to steal something, logically they would want to get out not get in.
(Therret Prizreni, 24 May 2017 16:32)
I read a lot of balkan news websites to see what is going on in the old yu republics, but one thing i really dont understand is why you so called 'proud' albanians are always trying to steal Serb history? I get it you are the majority in Kosovo but you cant take historical things that dont belong to you and call them Albanian.
(Sinisa Croat, 24 May 2017 01:33)
Why don't the Albanians in Kosovo put their medival structures, monuments or places of worship from centuries ago they have in unesco? Ahhh that's right they have none...let me guess the Serbs burnt and destroyed them..... buch of nomadic savages
(mike, 24 May 2017 01:14)
I really can't see any way forward in improving relationships between Kosovo and Serbia. All Serbia wants to undermine Kosovo at any costs...close relationship with Russia. Serbia is in the wrong place geographically. It should have been next to Belorussia....Europe has to deal with Serbia in due course...
(EA, 23 May 2017 20:02)
I really can't see any way forward in improving relationships between Kosovo and Serbia. All Serbia wants to undermine Kosovo at any costs...close relationship with Russia. Serbia is in the wrong place geographically. It should have been next to Belorussia....Europe has to deal with Serbia in due course...
(EA, 23 May 2017 20:02)
Why don't the Albanians in Kosovo put their medival structures, monuments or places of worship from centuries ago they have in unesco? Ahhh that's right they have none...let me guess the Serbs burnt and destroyed them..... buch of nomadic savages
(mike, 24 May 2017 01:14)
I read a lot of balkan news websites to see what is going on in the old yu republics, but one thing i really dont understand is why you so called 'proud' albanians are always trying to steal Serb history? I get it you are the majority in Kosovo but you cant take historical things that dont belong to you and call them Albanian.
(Sinisa Croat, 24 May 2017 01:33)
I get it you are the majority in Kosovo but you cant take historical things that dont belong to you and call them Albanian.
(Sinisa Croat, 24 May 2017 01:33)
Fair point if this is the case, joining UNESCO has nothing to do with stealing the church will still be a Serb church in Kosovo, Serbia on the other hand wants Vatican status in Kosovo which Albanians do not want to give.
Jordan is in UNESCO with Petra and sure its not Jordan monument, and many other examples not needed to make the point.
Its a Serbian Orthodox church in Kosovo it belongs to Kosovo citizens but its Serbian church.
Jerusalem old city is in UNESCO is it Palestinian or is it Israeli (not decided yet) but in UNESCO.
Unesco has many other things but Serbs love symbols and I get it its attachment, however they lost the war. If there was a Hungarian church in Vojvodina should it be in UNESCO?
ie Arca Church: It was built around 1230 during administration of the Kingdom of Hungary. It was robbed and devastated in 1280 and reconstructed in 1370 as required by the Queen Elizabeth, and that’s when the Gothic tower that exists today was, probably, built.
So is Serbia stealing this history of Hungarians?
(Curtadore, 24 May 2017 20:57)
"but one thing i really dont understand is why you so called 'proud' albanians are always trying to steal Serb history? I get it you are the majority in Kosovo but you cant take historical things that don't belong to you and call them Albanian."
Since when applying to become a member of UNESCO constitutes "trying to steal Serb history"? How many members are in UNESCO? Did all of them became members to "steal" someone's else history since no current borders were there forever? UNESCO's role is just that, to protect historical/cultural heritage for humankind, so if someone wants to steal something, logically they would want to get out not get in.
(Therret Prizreni, 24 May 2017 16:32)
Right, even if you have physical control of the artifact (pyramid) doesn't make it's past history yours - the world knows what it is, and recognizes for what it is. Plus you've just signed up for a whole bunch of duties, maintenance, upkeep, restoration, safety, and security, complying with UNESCO's to-do list etc., without any benefits - that history belongs to someone else. It's like taking on cleaning someone's toilet for free.
That's why the argument that Kosova wanting to get into UNESCO as akin to stealing Serbia's cultural heritage, is bogus.
The simple truth is that Kosova wants to be accepted into UNESCO as an act of further recognition. Serbia doesn't want Kosova to enter UNESCO for exactly the opposite reason. But in true Serbian fashion, they invent this hyperbole that makes absolutely no sense.
(Therret Prizreni, 24 May 2017 22:26)
you said:"...so if someone wants to steal something, logically they would want to get out not get in."
sure, you're correct if one wishes to steal the mona lisa, or the hope diamond, or your neighbours automobile.
however, if one wishes to steal governance (otherwise known as a coup d'etat) they wish to get in not get out.
so logically theft involves the taking of something (tangible or abstract) and either getting in or getting out, which makes the direction of travel irrelevant.
you logic is flawed.
consider one wishes to steal the great pyramid of giza. one wouldn't simply pocket such a thing, and sneak their way out of cairo airport. one would plant themselves there, on the spot and take control. one would move their associates into strategic positions to defend that control, and one would move into the role of governance to cement that control.
stealing a history is not like stealing a car, something that you need to run off with. it is like stealing a unique monument: as each history is unique onto itself.
just because someone stakes a flag at the base of the flavian amphitheatre does not take away the fact that it is roman.
(bag of socks, 24 May 2017 18:04)
"Serbs remained Serbs in everything that matters even after five centuries of Ottoman, Muslim rule. That's something everyone wanting to erase the Serb name or abolish Serb existence in historical Serb lands should bear in mind," Tanaskovic concluded.
Wonder if 95% of the Albo population can say the same thing...I think not...bunch of thieving cowards.
(royals, 26 May 2017 08:37)
I really can't see any way forward in improving relationships between Kosovo and Serbia. All Serbia wants to undermine Kosovo at any costs...close relationship with Russia. Serbia is in the wrong place geographically. It should have been next to Belorussia....Europe has to deal with Serbia in due course...
(EA, 23 May 2017 20:02)
I read a lot of balkan news websites to see what is going on in the old yu republics, but one thing i really dont understand is why you so called 'proud' albanians are always trying to steal Serb history? I get it you are the majority in Kosovo but you cant take historical things that dont belong to you and call them Albanian.
(Sinisa Croat, 24 May 2017 01:33)
Why don't the Albanians in Kosovo put their medival structures, monuments or places of worship from centuries ago they have in unesco? Ahhh that's right they have none...let me guess the Serbs burnt and destroyed them..... buch of nomadic savages
(mike, 24 May 2017 01:14)
"but one thing i really dont understand is why you so called 'proud' albanians are always trying to steal Serb history? I get it you are the majority in Kosovo but you cant take historical things that don't belong to you and call them Albanian."
Since when applying to become a member of UNESCO constitutes "trying to steal Serb history"? How many members are in UNESCO? Did all of them became members to "steal" someone's else history since no current borders were there forever? UNESCO's role is just that, to protect historical/cultural heritage for humankind, so if someone wants to steal something, logically they would want to get out not get in.
(Therret Prizreni, 24 May 2017 16:32)
you said:"...so if someone wants to steal something, logically they would want to get out not get in."
sure, you're correct if one wishes to steal the mona lisa, or the hope diamond, or your neighbours automobile.
however, if one wishes to steal governance (otherwise known as a coup d'etat) they wish to get in not get out.
so logically theft involves the taking of something (tangible or abstract) and either getting in or getting out, which makes the direction of travel irrelevant.
you logic is flawed.
consider one wishes to steal the great pyramid of giza. one wouldn't simply pocket such a thing, and sneak their way out of cairo airport. one would plant themselves there, on the spot and take control. one would move their associates into strategic positions to defend that control, and one would move into the role of governance to cement that control.
stealing a history is not like stealing a car, something that you need to run off with. it is like stealing a unique monument: as each history is unique onto itself.
just because someone stakes a flag at the base of the flavian amphitheatre does not take away the fact that it is roman.
(bag of socks, 24 May 2017 18:04)
Right, even if you have physical control of the artifact (pyramid) doesn't make it's past history yours - the world knows what it is, and recognizes for what it is. Plus you've just signed up for a whole bunch of duties, maintenance, upkeep, restoration, safety, and security, complying with UNESCO's to-do list etc., without any benefits - that history belongs to someone else. It's like taking on cleaning someone's toilet for free.
That's why the argument that Kosova wanting to get into UNESCO as akin to stealing Serbia's cultural heritage, is bogus.
The simple truth is that Kosova wants to be accepted into UNESCO as an act of further recognition. Serbia doesn't want Kosova to enter UNESCO for exactly the opposite reason. But in true Serbian fashion, they invent this hyperbole that makes absolutely no sense.
(Therret Prizreni, 24 May 2017 22:26)
"Serbs remained Serbs in everything that matters even after five centuries of Ottoman, Muslim rule. That's something everyone wanting to erase the Serb name or abolish Serb existence in historical Serb lands should bear in mind," Tanaskovic concluded.
Wonder if 95% of the Albo population can say the same thing...I think not...bunch of thieving cowards.
(royals, 26 May 2017 08:37)
I get it you are the majority in Kosovo but you cant take historical things that dont belong to you and call them Albanian.
(Sinisa Croat, 24 May 2017 01:33)
Fair point if this is the case, joining UNESCO has nothing to do with stealing the church will still be a Serb church in Kosovo, Serbia on the other hand wants Vatican status in Kosovo which Albanians do not want to give.
Jordan is in UNESCO with Petra and sure its not Jordan monument, and many other examples not needed to make the point.
Its a Serbian Orthodox church in Kosovo it belongs to Kosovo citizens but its Serbian church.
Jerusalem old city is in UNESCO is it Palestinian or is it Israeli (not decided yet) but in UNESCO.
Unesco has many other things but Serbs love symbols and I get it its attachment, however they lost the war. If there was a Hungarian church in Vojvodina should it be in UNESCO?
ie Arca Church: It was built around 1230 during administration of the Kingdom of Hungary. It was robbed and devastated in 1280 and reconstructed in 1370 as required by the Queen Elizabeth, and that’s when the Gothic tower that exists today was, probably, built.
So is Serbia stealing this history of Hungarians?
(Curtadore, 24 May 2017 20:57)